HIS MAIESTIES MESSAGE To the HOƲSE of COMMONS, Concerning an ORDER made by Them, for the borrowing of one Hundred Thousand Pounds of the Adventurers money for IRELAND.

Together with the ANSVVER OF THE COMMONS Assembled in Parliament thereunto.

Ordered by the Commons in Parliament, that this Message and Answer, be forthwith Printed and published.

Hen. El [...]ynge, Cler. Parl. Dom. Com.

London, Printed for Edw. Husbands and Iohn Franck, and are to be sold at their Shop in the Middle-Temple, and the next doore to the Kings-Head Taverne in Fleete-streete, M.DC.XLII.

His Majesties MESSAGE TO THE HOVSE OF COMMONS.

HIs Majesty taking notice of an Order lately made by the House of Commons, whereby that House hath unduly assu­med to themselves, Authority to Or­der, direct and dispose of one hundred thousand pounds, part of those monies, which the Adventurers, for the re­ducing of the Rebels of Ireland, have paid to that end onely to that purpose, to other uses and intents, contrary to the ex­presse words of the Act of Parliament concerning the same, wherein it is enacted, That no part of the Money which should be paid in according to that Act, shall be im­ployed [Page 2]to any other purpose, then the reducing of those Rebels, untill they shall be declared to be subdued, Out of His Piety and Princely care for the conferring and re-establishment of Gods true Religion in that His Kingdome of Ireland, for the reliefe of His distressed Subjects there, for the suppressing of that horrid and bloo­dy Rebellion, for the supply and payment of His Armies there now in great want and necessity, doth strictly re­quire the House of Commons, as they will answer the contrary to Almighty God, His Majestie, and those that have trusted them, That they immediately retract, that mischievous, illegall and unjust Order; wherin His Majesty expecteth their speedy Answer and Obedience; and the rather, that He may thereby be secured, that such part of the foure hundred thousand pounds, as is or shall be collected from His good Subjects of England, by ver­tue of the late Act of Parliament, whereby the same is granted, may not likewise (under false pretences) be di­verted from it's proper use, for which it was intended and misimployed to the disturbance of the Peace of this Kingdome in a warre against His sacred Majesty.

THE ANSVVER Of the House of COMMONS To His MAIESTIES MESSAGE of the 13. of Aug. 1642.

THe House of Commons having re­ceived a Message from His Maje­stie of the 13. of August last, whereby they are required to re­tract an Order made by them for the borrowing of one hundred thousand pounds of the Adven­turers money for Ireland, suppo­sing that Order very prejudiciall to the affaires of Ireland, and contrary to an Act of Parliament, made this present Sessions, doe in the first place de­clare that the directions given by His Majesty for the retracting of this Order, is an high breach of Pri­viledge of PARLIAMENT. And that they can­not [Page 4]without a deepe sence of sorrow call to minde, how Popish and Prelaticall Councells, did so farre prevaile with his Majesty, that two Armies were brought within the bowells of this Kingdome, and two Protestant Nations ready to w [...]lter in each others blood, that when both those Armies had bin a long time defrayed at the charge of the poore Commons of England, and at length by Gods blessing upon the endeavours of the PARLIAMENT, quietly disbanded; the same wicked Councells (prevented of that designe) did soone after raise this bloody and barbarous Rebellion in Ireland, the suppressing whereof, (for the better colour) was recommen­ded to the care of the Parliament, who out of a fel­low-feeling of the unspeakeable miseries of their Pro­testant Bretheren there, (not suspecting this horrid plot now too apparent) did cheerefully undertake that great Worke, and doe really intend and endea­vour, to settle the Protestant Religion, and a perma­nent peace in that Realme, to the glory of God, and the great honour and profit of his Majestie, and se­curity of his three Kingdomes. But how they have beene discouraged, retarded and diverted, in and from this pious and glorious worke, by those Traiterous Councells about his Majesty, will appeare by ma­ny particulars; some whereof, they shall upon this just occasion call to remembrance. That when the Lords and Commons, had upon the first breaking out of the Rebellion, immediately provided and sent over Twenty thousand pounds, and engaged them­selves and the whole Kingdome for the reducing of the Rebells, Yet his Majesty after his returne from Scot­land [Page 5]to London, was not pleased either by Word or Message to take notice of that, untill after some in the House of Commons, had truly observed how forward those mischievous Councellors were to incite his Ma­jesty against his Protestant Subjects of Scotland, and how slow to recent the proceedings of his Papist Tray­tors in Ireland. That although the Rebells had most im­pudently stiled themselves the Queenes Army, and profest that the cause of their rising, was to maintaine the Kings Prerogative, and the Queenes Religion, a­gainst the Puritan Parliament of England, And that thereupon both Houses of Parliament did humbly and earnestly advise his Majesty, to wipe away this dan­gerous Scandall, by Proclayming them Rebells and Traytors to his Majesty and the Crowne of England, which then would have mated and weakned the Con­spirators in the beginning, and have encouraged both the Parliament here, and good people there, the more vigorously to have opposed their proceedings, Yet such was the power of those Councellors, that no Procla­mation was set forth to that purpose, till almost three Moneths after the breaking out of this Rebellion, and then Command given, that but forty should be Printed, nor they to be published till further directions should be given by his Majesty. That after both Houses of Parliament had found out a probable way to reduce the Kingdome of Ireland, by the Adventure of private men, without any charge to the Subject in generall, and which they are very confident would have brought in a Million of Money, had his Majesty continued in or neare London; those malicious Whisperers that durst not hinder the passing of the Bill, which was so spe­cious [Page 6]in it selfe, and so generally approved; yea have by practice, by drawing his Majesty from his Parliament, by keeping him at this distance, and advising him to make warre upon his people, so intimidated and dis­couraged the Adventurers and others that would have adventured, that they have rendered that good Bill, in a manner ineffectuall. That the Parliament and Ad­venturers, had long since designed 5000. Foote, and 500. Horse, for the reliefe of Munster, to be sent as a Brigade, under the Command of the Lord Wharton, had made Choice of, and Listed all the Commanders, and prepared Money, Armes and other provision for that Expedition, and all to be at the charge of the Ad­venturers, and when nothing was wanting but a Com­mission to the Lord Wharton, to enable him for that service; such was the power of those Councellors, that no Commission could be obteyned from his Majesty, by reason whereof Lymerick was wholly lost, and the Province of Munster is now in very great di­stresse.

That when divers pious and well affected Persons, had prepared 12. Shipps, and 6. Pinnaces, with a 1000. or more Land forces at their own Charge, by way of Adventure for the service of Ireland, and desired no­thing but a Commission from his Majesty, to enable them thereunto. That Commssion after twice sending to Yorke for the same, and the Shipps lying ready to set sayle for three weekes together, at the Charge of neere Three hundred pounds a day, was likewise denyed, and those Adventurers (rather then to lose their ex­pedition) were constrained to goe, by vertue of an Ordinance of both Houses of Parliament.

[Page 7] That although the Lords Iustices of Ireland have three moneths since earnestly desired to have two peeces of battery sent over, as very necessarie for that service, yet such Commands are given to the Officers of the Tower that none of his Majesties Ord­nance must bee sent to save his Majesties Kingdome, That although, whilest the Earle of Leicester stayed here in the service of the Parliament and in providing for his long expected voyage into Ireland, a Message was sent to the Parliament from his Majestie to hasten him away, and Letters were written to the said Earle from his Majestie, that he should make no stay at Yorke for his dispatch, but that his instructions should be ready for him against he came. And although it is notoriously knowne, that the affaires of Ireland doe exceedingly suffer by wanting the personall assistance of a Commander in Chiefe, to give both life and mo­tion to the Army there; Yet the said Earle hath been stayed with his Majestie in the North a moneth and more, and as yet can get no dispatch; That notwith­standing the bleeding condition of Ireland, yet divers Commanders and Officers in pay, and in actuall im­ployment there against the Rebels, have beene called away from that important service by the expresse Command of his Majestie, as Charles Floyd Engineer, and Quarter-master generall of the Army in Ireland, and divers others. That Captaine Greene Comptrol­ler of the Artillery, a man in pay, and principally employed and trusted here by the said Lievtenant of Ireland, for the providing and ordering the trayne of [Page 8]Artillery which was to be sent to Dublin, and who had received great summes of money for that purpose was commanded from that imployment and trust to serve his Majestie in this most unnaturall Warre a­gainst his loyall and best affected people. That the Parliament having made great provision of clothes for the poore Souldiers in Ireland for their present succour, and sending sixe hundred suites, part thereof towards Chester the last weeke, the man that under­tooke the carriage of them one William Whitacker by name, was assaulted by his Majesties Cavaliers then lying about Coventry, who tooke away those six hun­dred suites of clothes, and the Waggon and Horses of the poore man, although they were told that the sixe hundred suites of clothes were for the Soul­diers in Ireland, and notwithstanding the poore Car­rier was five times with the Earle of Northampton to begge a release of his Waggon. That three hundred suites of clothes with a Chirurgeons Chest of Medi­caments being likewise sent for Ireland by one Richard Owefield, who was employed by the Parliament to car­ry them to Chester, a Troope of his Majesties Cava­liers under the command of one Captaine Middleton met with them upon the rode, and tooke away the clothes and Chirurgeons Chest, together with the poore Carriers horses and Waggon for his Majesties pretended service here. That a great number of Draught-horses prepared by the Parliament for the Artillery, and baggage of the Irish Army were sent to Chester for that purpose, and being there attending a [...] [Page 9]passage, are now required by his Majesty, for his said present service in England.

That his Majesties Forces are so quartered in and about the common Rodes to Ireland, that neither mo­ney, clothes, victuals, or other provisions can passe thither by Land with any safety. That Captaine Ket­tleby the Admirall, and Sir Henry Stradling the Vice-Admirall of those Ships which were directed to lye upon the Coast of Ireland, to annoy the Rebels, and to prevent the bringing to them Ammunition and re­liefe from forraigne parts, are both called away from that imployment by his Majesties Command, and by reason of their departure from the Coast of Munster, to which they were designed, the Rebels there have received Powder, Ammunition, and other reliefe from forraigne parts, by which and many other par­ticulars too long to relate, it may seeme, as if those Barbarous Irish Rebels are kept on foot, and counte­nanced there of Designe to assist the Northerne Ca­valiers, and according to the Earle of Straffords un­heard of advice to have an Army in Ireland, with which his Majesty may reduce this Kingdome, espe­cially considering those confident Rebels have pre­sumed very lately to send a Petition to his Majestie, intituling themselves his Majesties Catholique Sub­jects of Ireland, and complaining of the Puritan Par­liament of England, and desiring that since his Ma­jestie comes not thither according to their expectati­on, that they may come into England to his Majestie, which Petition we may justly feare, is but a Prologue [Page 10]to that tragedie they have designed to Act here, in case their cōming over be not prevented by the care & vi­gilancie of the Parliament, & good people of England. But least the House of Commons might seeme to ex­cuse the making of this Order by a way of recrimina­tion, They for a satisfaction to the VVorld, protest before Almighty God the Searcher of all hearts, that they have as great compassion and sorrow for the present sufferings of their distressed Brethren in Ire­land, as if themselves were in their case (into which they are confident, those horrid Traitors, those Mon­sters of men about his Majesty doe labour to bring this Kingdome) That they have and shall ever really endeavour by all means possible (with a due regard to the present estate of this Kingdome) to supply and support them in this their great affliction notwith­standing the malice and obstructions of all opposers. That the House of Commons lively apprehending the imminent danger of this Kingdom, & finding that whilest they were active here to subdue the Rebels of Ireland, there were Papists, Traitors and Delinquents more active in the North to conquer and destroy the Parliament and good people of England, thought it necessary to provide for the safety of both by prepa­ring a competent Army for the defence of King and Kingdom, & although multitudes of wel affected per­sons had cheerfully brought in great store of plate for that purpose, yet in regard the plate could not be coy­ned with such expedition, as the importance of the service did require, and well knowing that one hun­dred [Page 11]thousand pounds might for a short time be bor­rowed out of the Adventurers money for Ireland, without any prejudice to the Affairs of that Kingdom (whose subsistence depends upon the welfare of this) and resolving to make a reall, and speedy repayment of what money should be so borrowed did make this Order which that it may appeare to all the World to be neither mischievous, illegall, nor unjust (as his Ma­jesty, by the instigation of those malignant VVhispe­rers is pleased to terme it) the house of Commons thought fit to recite it in haec verba, and instead of re­tracting the Order to repay the money with all possi­ble speed.

The thirtieth day of July, one thousand six hundred forty two; It is this day ordered by the Commons House of Parliament, that the Treasurers appointed to receive the Moneys come in upon the Subscripti­ons for Ireland, doe forthwith furnish by way of loan, unto the Committee of the Lords and Commons, for the defence of the Kingdome, the summe of one hundred thousand pounds for the supply of the pub­lick necessity for the defence of the King, Parliament, and Kingdom upon the publick faith to be repaid du­ly and carefully within so short a time, that it shall not be diverted from the purpose, for which it was inten­ded, or any way frustrate the Acts already made in the behalf of that Adventure. By which order, and that which hath been here truly set down, it will easily ap­pear to all the indifferent people of his Majesties three [Page 12]Kingdoms, VVhether the King and his Cavaliers, or the King and his Parliament do most affect and en­deavour the setling of true Religion, and a firme and constant peace within that bleeding and distracted Kingdome.

FINIS.

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