FIrst touchinge the tytell and prefa­ce of your booke your intēt is Mar­tin (as it apeareth by the same) to proue that the mariadge of priestes and professed parsons is not only a thinge altoge­ther vnlawfull: but also that ther mari­adge is but a thinge pretensid and inde­de no mariadge. And you thinke you ha­ue made so wittie a discourse / and so pro­found a resolucion / in this so weghty a matter / by your clarkly wisedom: and Sophisticall cūninge / that you can fynde no­ne so worthy a patrone / to whome ye may dedicate the first frutes of your fantasy as not only to a Queen / but also to a vir­gin Queen / as by the end of youre prefa­ce more playnly apereth. Martins fil­thi and vnchast talke in his boke dedicated to the Queen. Not doutin­ge belyke the offending of her graces eares with your vngodly and vnchast beast­lynes and raylinge. As when you vse the termes of detestable bawdry / of stinkinge lechory / of beastly bichery / of concubines and of common strumpets / of lecherose ād filthy beastes / and of your heathenishe ruffianlyke [Page 13] / and abhominable talke in abusinge the words Carnis res [...]rrectionem. Martins be­astli abusin­ge of a peece of the crede in his book, fol. lxvij. .i. the resurrection of the flesh / beinge a necessary article of euery Christian mans faith / to the stirring vp of nature in mans body / neyther with an infinite number / of such lyke and more wicked tearmes / with whose rehersall I am more then as­hamed to occupy my penn / but th [...] [...]t is meet your lewdnes should some thing be knowen and disclosed. Neyther do you think belike that she wold be offendid with youre shameles shiftes / vnder the protection of her name / nor with your e­uydent wrasting of the trueth / and most manifest and open lyes / aswell apon the holy and sacred Word of the euerliuinge god / as of the learned fathers / and aunce [...] wryters / and old Can̄ons in the church of god / of whiche lyes / flaunders / sleig­ [...]tes / wicked / and vngodly raylinges [...]nly and of nothinge els / the whole bo­ [...]y of youre booke is raked vp together as [...] stincking dunghill that is heaped of [...]undry soartes of filth. Oh lord / is ho­ [...]estie so muche deca [...]ed / that any mā dar [...]th be so bold to occupy the chast eares of [...]ny Christen creature / but chefely of a [Page] Queen with suche whorishe ād ethnicall talke? whither hath thy boldnes caried the Martyn? Seest thow not / that shame hath not made the shrynke / to seeke for defence of thy beastlynes at the hand of the chefe power? No mā lyuinge (that conceaueth good opinion of her grace) can thinke other wise / then that ether she neuer red thy booke / or that she will not suffer thy boldnes to goe vnpunished. But be it that she wold / yet assuer thy self of this / though she of her fauor towards the / will wīk at thy wickednes / say what thow shalt / yet will God and all god­ly learned men / ouerloke both the and thy doinges / and know by that thow sa­iest what maner of mā thow semest to be / ād iudge by that thow shuldest say / what maner of man thow oughtest to be. Thy boke hath betrayed the Martyn / for thy fondnes / was not knowen befor it came abrode / but assone as that shewed it self in mens hands / they might easely perce­aue / Martin used [...]erely to play the fole at Chri­stmas in newe Colledge in Ox [...]d. that in playnge the Christmas lords minion in new colledge in Oxford / in thy foles coat that thow didest learne thy boldnes / and lost thy witt / and began to [Page] [...]ut of all shame and to put on all impu­ [...]encye. Thus beinge indewed with the [...]ery properties of Martion the aunce [...]nt Archeretique / and enemy to all Matrimonie (with whōe thoughe thow [...]gree somwhat in name / yet is that agre [...]ent muche more in opinion (as in pro­ [...]es by Gods grace I shall plainly pro­ [...]e) thow thinkest thow maist play thy [...]arte abrode now / as thow diddest at ho [...]e then. But when thy folowers and [...]auorers shall eftsones perceaue / that [...]hey shall be accessary to thy folly / if thy [...]olours being disclosed / they continew in [...]attery of thy doings: Then shame / if [...]hey be not past shame / shall make them [...]rynke from the / and dryue them to la­ [...]ent both their owne case and thyne / for [...]ffering affection so to blynde their ey­ [...]s / that amongst so many wyse men [...]hey haue folwed such a fole. None that [...]ueth the Queen can think that she co­ [...]ld read thy boke without blushing chee [...]es / wherfore reason semeth to say that [...]auinge no leasure her self / she causid thy [...]ok to be perused bi sōe other / apō whose [...]porte if they were hōest mē / and not her [...]atterers / or thy folowers (as many of [Page 16] them be that remaine about her) thy bo [...]ke should neuer haue ben alowed / for [...]uoyding rebuke that therby might re [...]ound to her grace herafter: Orels if [...] pleasure were that this euell argumen [...] against the holy matrimony of preste [...] should goe abrode vnd her defence / th [...] then the same / thoughe it be an euell m [...]ter / shuld haue as good a visor put apo [...] it as might be / and that in suche sorte a [...] thoughe the world that now is / may pe [...]ceaue how by zeale s [...]e is caried to fa [...] superstition / The Queen ought to [...]a [...]e heed of filthi [...]pirits. yet that the posteritie which shall folow this age might vnderstan [...] she reioiseth not in such vyle and filth [...] spirites / thoughe lyeng were alowed [...] reason of her ignoraunce. In this [...] all other things her grace may doe wh [...] it lusteth so farr and so long as God [...] permitte and suffer / but your raylings [...] lyes may not be left vntouched / thoug [...] your book were tenn tymes dedicate to Queē / lest through your falshod and ly [...] trueth it self might either be hyd or hurt [...]

Wherfore I will presently turne my [...] from your preface to the tytell off your [...] / for youre preface is nothinge ells [...] paper full off poyson prepared to infect [Page 17] [...]rinces eares. The matter therin con­ [...]yned I will differr to be answerd in [...]he body of my boke / where it shalbe eui [...]ently declared that all your promesses [...]ere made be lyes / all your reasons ray­ [...]ngs / all your wisdom wranglinge / and [...]ll your doings / deceytfull.

THe tytell of your bok is not vnlike to a Tauerners wyne bushe hanged out for a shew / wher ther is not one [...]rop of wyne / or at the least way of no [...]ood wyne in the Cellar. For as the bus­ [...]e maketh the people beleue / that som­ [...]hat is there / whiche in deed is not: So [...] it with the tytell of your booke / and al [...] with euery chapter in the first leaf ta­ [...]ed For the reader shall well perceaue [...]at no one thinge in the whole booke is [...]ewly performed / that gloriosli in the [...]yttell of the same without feare is pro­ [...]essed. The triall wherof shalbe pro­ued [Page 18] in my proces. But one thing in thi [...] first frunt I may not wel omitt / becaus [...] in youre Tytell of youre booke it is so n [...]toriose / and in your body of the same / [...] whit remembred. wherby it may appe [...]are how trew you be of youre promesses the tytell of your book saith that it is. The Tytell of Martins book

A Treatise declaringe and plainly pr [...]uinge that the pretensed mariadge [...] priestes and professed parsons / is no m [...]riadge but altogether vnlaufull / etc.

Note good reader that Martin saiet [...] not only that the mariadges of preest [...] be euell and vnlawfull mariadges / bu [...] he saieth plainly that they be no mariad [...]ges. That the mari­adge of priests be not only ma­riadges but also good and law­full. I pray you master Doctour (if [...] may be so bold with you) answer me b [...] your law without Sophistry / (for you [...] logique is so litell that no man nedeth [...] regarde it / and your diuinitie much less [...] as your book beareth witnes.) Answ [...] me I say by your law if you haue any / [...] this reason: where there is no mariad [...] there nedeth no diuorse / Martyn con­futed by the Queens procedings. but the proc [...]dings off the Queen and the bushope and of all the lawiers in England decla [...]re that a diuorse is nedefull off priests [...] ­riadge before they be again admitted [...] [Page 19] [...] ministery / or that the wyf may marry [...]: Ergo the Queen the bushopes [...] all the lawiers in England conclude [...] priests mariadge is a mariadge / [...] to your resolution: my reason [...] apon this ground. Priuatio ante requi­ [...]abitum. The taking away of a thin­ [...] presupposeth that such a thinge there [...]. And the breaking of a knot / [...] that there was a knot in all [...] mens iudgements / I know not [...] it doth in youres. And that such a [...] was nedefull the lawiers them [...] declare / grauntinge that such a so­ [...]pne act as matrimonie is / can not [...] another solempne act be vndon [...] / wherof the lerned lawiers were [...] ignoraunt though it be french or he­ [...]w to you.

Secondarylye. Yf the mariadge of [...] priests in England were no mariad­ [...] then is there diuorse no diuorse: for if [...] a mariadge ād a diuorse it foloweth [...] they be all gods enemies who either [...] or suffre in England priests [...] to mary againe other huszbāds [...] the diuorse is not for adultery.

Thurdly Yow popishe Heretiques [Page 20] say that mariadge is a Sacrament of [...] new Testament though in deed it wer [...] [...]stituted in paradise before Adams tr [...]gression / Martin se­meth not to ag­ree with the rest of the pa­pists. and therwith also you maint [...]ne and defend that Sacramenta conferunt [...] ex opere operato. the Sacraments [...] grace by vertew of the worke w [...]ught. And apon that ground ye Chris [...] bells / D. st [...]ksley bus [...]p of londō Christenid a cat and churches / etc. as D. Stok [...]ley bushop of London Christened a [...] wherof by tryall king Hēry the viij. [...] assuerid. The papists grant Christen­dom to bellis / and deny ma­riadge to priests But if this being (as ye [...] it) a Sacrament of the new Testam [...] and ministred by a minister to a priest [...] a maiden / be not able to make a mari [...]ge / then shuld not Sacraments confe [...] grace ex o [...]ere operato .i. by the work [...] / whiche amonge the Papists [...] great absurditie and inconuenience. [...] Optatus the great learned / Optatus aga­inst / Martin wh [...] wrote ab­oue a 1000. yere gon. contra Donatistas hereti. libro vj. auncient / ād [...] wryter (whom you alledge as one [...] maketh for your purpose / and therfor [...] you not with honestie refuse / him) sayt [...] his sixt book against the donatists. [...] inuocatio nominis Dei, ipsa inuocatio sanctif [...] & quod pollutum esse uidebatur. That is) [...] there be an inuocation or a callinge [...] the name of god / the very inuocatiō it [...] sanctifieth and maketh holy that whi [...] [Page 21] [...] to be vnclean. Whiche words of [...]tatus by you (though in other matter [...]roued / whom also I most gladli alow) [...] playnly that if the mariadge of [...] were a thinge vncleane (whiche [...] [...]ut heretiques durst euer to say) yet be [...] same by meanes of the inuocacion of [...] holy name made cleane puer and [...] your ground be good which I haue [...] / that the Sacraments do confer [...] by the work wrought / Clemens Ale­xand. in his iiij. book. [...]. but what [...]wor [...] your groūds be / this must be trewe [...] it is sanctified by the word of God [...] praier / as I shall hereafter shew mo [...]lainly in whiche sense Clemens [...]. 4. [...]. taketh it saiēg: That [...] [...]iadge is made holy whiche is conclu [...] by the ministery of Gods word / Pope Syriti­us against Martyn though / he be our enemy. D.lxxxij. cap. plurimos. etc. [...] it apereth by the popes own de [...] that Pope Syritius being our [...] enemy and one of the first that for [...] the mariadge of preests di. 82. C. Plu­ [...]s / spekinge against the same mari­ [...]es asmuche as he may / calleth the [...] wyues suas vxores, there own [...] / whiche thinge he wold not haue [...] there aduersary / if he had [...] there mariadge to be no mariadge. [Page 22] And to make the thinge more plain [...] selfsame Syritius in that very place [...] a distinction betwen those child [...] whome priests had / A playn prof that pope Syritius did not iudge the mariad­ge of priestes a fylthy thinge. a proprijs uxoribus [...] there owne wyues and those child [...] which they had a turpi coitu / by vnlaw [...] meanes. Here Martyn you see the [...] himself against you. The Nicene counsell against Martyn. Item one of first ād most auncient counsells afte [...] Apostles callid the Nicene counsell / [...] the mariadges of priests / legales [...], lawfull mariadges: when sugg [...]on was made that priests shuld not [...] with there wyues / they determined [...] / legales nuptias ammodo ualere uolmus ▪ will that lawfull mariadges from [...] forth shall stand in force. D.xxxj. c. An­te triennium Another bus­hop of Rome against Mar­tin.

Itē Gregory another bushop off [...] wryting to Peter Subdeacon of [...] saieth Durum est, &c. It is a hard thi [...] that such Subdeacōs as haue not for [...] the guift of sole lyfe should be comp [...] to absteyn A suis uxoribus i. from [...] own wyues / D.xxvij. Dia­coni Martyn the pope against Martyn your leud lawier. in the which words ( [...] own wyue [...] man can denye / but by Gregorius iudgement the mari [...] of a priest was a mariadge.

Item Pope Martyn being 647. [Page 23] after Christe sayeth. Tanta est uis in Sacra­mento Coniugij, Mariadge made after the vow must be kept though the vow be broken. ut nec ex uiolatione uoti potest dissolui ipsum coniugium:

So great a strenght is in the Sacra­ment of matrimonye that the mariadge can not be dissolued after the breche of the vow. Epiphanius a greke wryter a­gainst Martin 375. yere after Christ. Note the ter­mes reader [...]e­cundum legem a votary may take a wyfe ac­cording to the law.

Item Epiphanius contra Catharos haeresi 59. speking of them that haue made a vow / and afterward turn to mariadge / sayth.

Melius est lapsum à cursu palam sibi uxo­rem sumere secundum legem, & sic rursus ad Ec­clesiam induci, uelut qui mala operatus est, qui lapsum & fractum, & obligatione opus habent [...]m, & non quotidie occultis iaculis sauciari ab impro­bitate quae ipsis à Diabolo infertur.

Yt ts better (saieth he) for him tha [...] is fallen in his course (meaning them that can not continew in the thinge that they haue vowed) to take a wife openly ac­cordinge to the law / The mariadge of a priest made after his vow is good. and so to be restored to the church again (as one that before hath done euell / as one that hath fal­len / and hath been broken / and hath now need to be bounde) and not dayly to be inwardly wounded by secret dar­tes wher with the deuell continualy doth [Page 24] assault them. Lo here Epiphā. doth [...] only alow mariadges of priests and vot [...]ries before priesthode and vowinge / bu [...] also after priesthod and vowing / and nameth the mariadge done in such case lau [...]full / ād that mariadge after there vow [...] broken / is a meane to restore them again to the churche / if they were fallen from [...] by breakinge of there vow. So that yo [...] se by Ep. iudgement / that the mariadge of priests euen after there vow is not ōly a mariadge but also a lawfull mariadge. mariadge after the vow is law full by Epiph. And this place of Ep. answereth fully a [...] other places of him which by Martyn and other Papists be wrythed to the con [...]trary. Item Saint Austen in his boke de bono uiduitatis maketh a plain resoluti­on in this matter aswell against Martī / as against all the rest of the popishe rout in Christendome / where speaking of thē that mari after they haue vowed / he saith in plain words / Non ipsae nuptiae uel taliū dam nandae iudicantur / (that is) the mariadge euen of such as marry after they haue vowed are not to be condempned. Saint Austen against Mar­tin / falsified by Pighius. This pla­ce of S. Austen is falsified by Pighi­us controuers .15. wher for ( uel talium he hath crafftily put in ( uelut malum) wherapō the whole matter standeth. Oh false papist. [Page 25] And a litle after S. Aug. saieth. Proinde [...]ui talium nuptias dicunt non esse nuptias, That the mari­adge after the vow broken is a good mariad­ge plainly pro­ued by S. Austen. sed poti [...]s adulteria, non mihi uidētur satis accurate & dili genter considerare quid dicant, fallit quippe eos [...]imilitudo ueritatis etc. and shorthly after he saieth. Fit autem per hanc minus consideratam opinionem, qua putant lapsarum à sancto proposi­ [...]o foeminarum, si nup [...]erint non esse coniugia, nō paruum malum, ut à maritis separentur uxores quasi adulterae sint, non uxores: & cum uolunt e­as separatas, reddere continentiae, faciunt maritos earum adulteros ueros, cum suis uxoribus uiuis, ali as duxerint &c. The English of all this together is this. Saint Austen saith that the Papists know not what thei say. wherfore they that say the mariadge of suche (meāing of them that marry after they haue vowed) is no mariadge but rather adultery / me semeth they do not advisedly and diligently enough cōsider what they say / for they be decea­ued by an apparance of trueth for by the means of that folishe opiniō wherby they thinke the mariadge of suche professed women as haue forsakē there vow / is no mariadge if they mary / Here be Mar­tins very wo­rds confuted by Saint Austen there commeth no small inconuenience. which inconuenience is this wyues be separate frō their husbands as thoughe they were whores ād not wyues. And when they will restore the divorsed to sole life / there husbāds [Page 26] are cōpelled to be veri adulterers / whē th [...] re owne wyues beinge alyue they marr [...] other husbāds. Here thow seest Marti [...] cōfutid by S. Austens own words Wh [...]che 1 do not only make a plaine confutati [...]on prouinge first that priests mariadge be mariadges / but agreinge fully wi [...] 2 Epiphanius and the rest by me before al [...]ledged / they also declare Saint Austen mynde that such mariadges as be mad [...] after priesthode / be good and lawfu [...] mariadges / And that there wyues in s [...]che case be there lawfull wyues / be ther [...] 3 own wyues / and that there wyues be n [...] whores / And that it is not lawfull so t [...] diuorse the parties that either of the [...] 4 may marry other parsons. Yea and i [...] the same place / Saint Austen answeret [...] there fond obiection which say that vota [...]ies 5 be maried to Christe / ād therfore they can not marry againe / whiche in this pla [...]ce I will leaue owt / least I shuld be tedi [...]se / mynding hereafter to alledge this pla [...]ce more largelie / Saint Austen saieth they be deceaued which hold opinion that priests or vo [...]a [...]ies may n [...]t many. for satisfinge of such as think we haue nothinge in the old Doc­tors that maketh for our purpose. But one thinge I pray the gentle reader / be­fore thow forsake this peece off Saint [Page 27] Austen Consider how earnestly in this my allegacion Saint Austen chargeth our aduersaries with dulnes and ignor­aunce / Consider how he tanteth them as talkers they wot not what / Consider how in plain words he sayth they be deceauid.

And when thow shalt reade or heare them bringe in Saint Austē against vs / set the reason of Saint Austen to make them answer / and if they will not / with this reason be satisfied: Then let them harken to Saint Austen where he saieth they be vnlerned and without aduisemēt / and that they say they wot not what.

Now leauinge the confutacion of Martin any further in this point by aunceāt counsels and Doctours / I haue thought good to confute him also by the sacred scriptures of God. Out of whiche one or two reasons / shall suffice for this present because habundance off matter otherwi­se hath made me tary so long about so litle. 11.1. Tim. 4.

Saint Paule 1. Timoth. 4. speaking of mariadge and meats sayth thus. Martin confuted by the scrip [...]ture. Euery creature of God is good to the faithfull ād none is to be refused being taken with thanks geuinge / for it is sanctified by the word off God and praier.

This maior or ground we haue [Page 28] haue of Saint Paule / whereunto I add this minor or meane proposition. But mariadge is a creature of god / that I am suer yow can not denye / onles you will say mariadge is a creature of the deuell as the old heretiques Saturninus Basilides and there folowers did. The heretiques Saturninus and Basilides wer enemies of mariadge read / Theod. lib 1. de Haereticis fab▪ Wherupon must folow this conclusion / Ergo mariadge is good and not to be refused being takē with thanks geuinge for it is sanctified by the word of God and praier. This sound Sylogismus proueth plainly that the mariadge of a prest is not only a ma­riadge / but also a good mariadge / and a 1 good thinge for it is sanctified by the word of God and praier. Wherby Mar­tins assertion (that it is no mariadge) is fully ouerthrowen. 2. Tim. 3. Tit. 1. Yea and Saint Paule calleth the bushop / priest / and deacon / by the name of huszband / and there ioke­fellowes 2 by the name of wyues / and saith the bushop must be the huszband of one wife / and like wise the deacon. 1. Corinh. 7. And fur­ther he saieth for the avoydinge of forni­eacion let euery man haue his wife etc. 3 In which generall sentence / priests must be comprehendid / if they be men. Yea and there mariadge not only a mariadge but also an honorable mariadge or els cā not [Page 29] mariadge be honorable in all estates / as Saint Paule wryteth to the hebrues the 13. Chap. Heb. 13▪ And I pray you what neded you to make more adoe / if priests mariadge were no mariadge? what neded an act of Parliament / in the first yere of the Queēs reigne to repeale the statute ma­de for priests mariadges? And why doth that act name it the mariadge of priests / ād not a pretēsed mariadge / as yow doe­reuokynge the mariadges by the name of mariadges / and not of pretensed mariadges? And last of all / yf prests mariadge be no mariadge as you say: what cause I pray you had the Queen and the bushopes to depriue the maried busho­pes and priests of England from there benefices? They were not depriued for ig­noraunce in Gods worde / neyther for not doing there dewtie / nor for glut [...]ony / nor swearinge / nor diszing / nor huntinge / nor buggery / nor whoredome / for these be cō ­mon faultes amōgst all your priests now a daies / And a benefice and any of them / or all of thē be so compatible / and may so well be enioyed together / that any popish priest may quietly haue those faults an [...] there benefice together wthout depriuation. Other fault there is none knowen / [Page] but only that they were maried / The maried priests of Eng­land were depriued without a cause. thoughe for the lawfulnes of there mariadge be­syds Gods plaine word and godly Can­nons and Doctours / etc. They had the consent of the kinge the supreame head vnder Christ of the churche and of the parlament and realme / an d that oyned with the consent of the congregacions assem­bled where they were maried / and for the testimony of the kings consent and oth­ers both of the nobles and commons / The maried priests had the consent of the Kinge the Parliament / and the Realme. for lawfulnes therof / many of them receauid benefices after they were maried / at the kings and other nobles hands. All this lawfulnes notwithstandinge I say other cause haue ye none wherfore ye depryued the priests of England from there bene­fices but only that they were maried.

Now cum you forth and say that the pretentid mariadge of priests is no ma­riadge. wherfore it must folow that the pretendid cause in England of priests diuorsement is no cause / ād that the priests be put from there liuings without a cause / euen by your own supposall / if the maadge of priests be but pretensid (as you put it) how much more then without a cause / being very mariadge in deed? as is prouid / and without controuersy a­mongst [Page] men of knowledge / and vnder­ [...]andinge / euen of your own sort / as is be [...]re shewed: Yf therfor without a cau­ [...] / then be they / either way / both by your [...]d supposall / & in very deed / the trew posessours of there benefices still / though [...]ther by [...]iolēce & extorsiō enioy the profets of there possessions. whom I wold should right well note that like [...]s princes and rulers be subiect to chaū ges / and that death assone knocketh at [...]he doer of the riche as of the pooer: So a mans right dieth not. And law in a­nother world will charge the transgres­ [...]or / The Papists be extorsioners. thoughe case in this world so flatter the conscience / that God is for gotton ād the flesh make full mery. what is extorsion? if this be not extorsion? to put out of goods and liuings one without a cause / and to thrust in another without a iust tytell? But all this cannot suffice you / on­ [...]es ye may please your throte and eares / with cryeng out vpon vs / the [...]es / hereti­ques & Traytours / etc. When you haue taken frō vs both our cuntry / our goods / & most lawfull possessions. Yea and all that we haue sauinge God alone / whom with his word ye haue left to vs / & dry­uen away from you / to our comfort and your eternall shame & perpetuall infamy▪

[Page 32]But to returne againe to the Tytell [...] Martins boke / I thinke it sufficientl [...] prouid / that the mariadge of a priest [...] professed parson is a mariadge (to th [...] open shame of Martin and his fauorer [...] aswell by argumēts deduced out of God [...] worde / and manifest authorities out [...] old Doctors both greke and Latin / and testimonies of the popes themselues and of there own lawes / as by the uery proc [...]dings of the Queen and the bushopes i [...] England in these present daies. And by the way also it may somwhat appeare by the iudgement of Epiphāius / and Saint Austen etc. that the same mariadge / is not only a mariadge / but also good / lau­full / and godly. which point I thought requisite somwhat to touch in the begin­ninge / for satisfieng of suche as either wold gladly / but yet haue no leasure to read all the rest of the proces folowinge▪ or els of suche as wold fayne haue there hunger easid with sumwhat in the begininge / wherby the payn of expectacion for the rest might be / though not vtterly ta­ken away / yet some parte aswagid. Now will I searche what Martin sayth in his first chapter / which beginneth on this wyse.

If the fellowship and company of a woman be in a spirituall man a mean to perfect religion / etc. Martins words. Because in your [...]oke almost vniuersaly you abuse to a [...]ronge sence / Martins fleight in vsing words that ma [...] be diuersly ta­ken to a wrong sence. sondry words which may [...]e ambiguosly taken / and so by equiuoca [...]ion and Sophisticall deceyt deceaue the [...]eader / as the termes / Chastitie / virgini­ [...]ie / mariadge / whoredome / heresye / here­ [...]que / Lechory / Churche / Traditionn / Coū [...]els / Doctours / vniuersall cōsent / vowes Iudgement / Spirituall men / Carnall men / and a great nomber of suche lyke I [...]halbe otenfymes forced for the help of [...]he vnaquaynted reader / (least he be car­ [...]ed away with such Sophisticall sleyghts and deceytfull practises into the opinion off you Papists / ): to opē the same words by playn distinction / as place shall requy­ [...]r / that the falshod taught by the Papists and the Catholique doctrine taught by [Page 34] and his Apostels and vs / may more eui [...]dently she [...] i [...] self and apeare. wherin th [...]ughe I sha [...] s [...]mtyme trauaile more lar [...]gely then shall seem nedefull for answe [...] yet dout I nothinge but that I shall de [...]serue pardō of the reader / because it sha [...] by Gods help / not be without some pro [...]fet / for in this discourse I mynd not to i [...]yn with Martin alone (being a mā as [...] semeth altogether ignorāt in diuinitie [...] not ōly the author but rather the pen̄er o [...] this blasphemose booke) but with all th [...] of rest the popishe sect / who haue bene ei­ther his helpers in it / or maynteiners o [...] the lyke heretical opiniōs. After this ad­uertisemēt / the reader shall note / that th [...] cōmon practise of Martin & suche as he be / The craft off you papists is to ma [...]e false grounds and to w [...]yth the mynd of the wryters is / to make the ground and foundaciō of there reasons apon words ād sentēces either of there own fantasying / vsing thē as things allredy prouid: or els wrythed far from the mynde of the speaker and wryter for the maintenaunce of there ma [...]nifest heresies and blasphemies / which craft of theres is both profittable and ne [...]cessary to be disclosed / Martin abu­seth the name of a spiritua [...] man to deceaue the reader. wherfore in the ve [...]ry first beginninge of this chapter I ma [...]ie not suffer Martin to turn the name of a Spirituall man / away from all maried men to the only shauen and popishe ge­ [...]acion. [Page 35] For the reader shall vnder­ [...]nd that all be spirituall men which be with Gods spirite. Rom. 8. 1. Corin. 2. And he who hath [...]re habundance of Gods spirite is [...] [...]pirituall. What is a spi­rituall man▪ Of a like mānor Saint Pau [...] [...]peaking to the maried sort in Rome as [...]ll as to the rest / said uos non es [...]is in carne, in spiritu: yow be not in the flesh but in [...] spirite: Iohann. [...]. And Saint Ihon in his [...] chapter nameth all to bee spirituall [...] beleue in Christ / for fleshe and bloud not able to bring forth such a spirituall [...]. And if the outward admission were [...]ble to make a man spirituall / than [...] Iudas and such lyke / who had the [...]ward election (yet inwardly folowed [...] spirit of the flesh / Spirituall. and the deuill) be [...]rthyly called spirituall / But our Saui [...] Christ reasoning with Nicodem ma­ [...]th a play [...] profe by euident demonstra­ [...]n that only s [...]ch as be indewed with [...]ds spirit / Iohannis. 3. be worthy of the name Spiri [...]all / ād that such as be no [...] born of Gods [...]rit / be not spirituall / but car [...]all. A maried man m [...]y be a spiri­tuall man. And the same place the lord hath geuen a [...]nnerall resol [...]tion that no man can en­ [...] the kingdom of heauē / [...] he becom [...]pirituall ma [...] / [...] be born a new not on [...]f water / but [...] of the holy [...]. [Page 36] Wherfore yf it were trew that the clar [...] that lacke wiues were the onely spiritu [...] sort (as Martī here taketh it) thē shou [...] all the maried people aswell Papistes [...] other / Martins doc­trine robeth all maried men of the spirite of god 2. cor. 6. aswell kīges / Princes / as other al sortes / lose the benifite of regeneraciō and be excluded from Gods holy comfo [...] and being men not spirituall (as Mart [...] termeth them) should be vnmete templ [...] in whome gods spirite myght dwell / a [...] finally vnable to entre the kyngdome heauen. But the scriptures of God kno [...] no suche distinction betwene the spiritua [...] and the temporall or worldly / as the P [...]pistes haue fantasyed and deuysed ther [...]to increase amongest the people the cred [...] of [...]heire shauen and wiueles generacio [...] whome onely they cal spirituall where a [...] they be onely spirituall / secundum quid / th [...] is notte in deade but abusiue / they be call [...] spirituall for theyr aparell / and office / b [...] otherwise altogether carnall. But in th [...] point the papists agree fully with the [...] heritiques named Massiliās / The agremente of the papystes with the hereti­ques named [...]. or in gre [...] [...] who would not lay theyr hād to a [...] kynde of labor / and their reason was ( [...] Theodoret witnesseth / lib 4) because th [...] named them selues [...] (that is [...] say) spirituall menn / excluding all go [...] [Page 37] [...]enne from that name (spirituall) as the [...]apystes doe. Martins reason runneth [...] as though that a man can not be a spi­ [...]ituall man who hath a wyfe. Mart. holdeth that mariadg [...] vnclennes [...] temporalye. pe [...]s [...]

Can such talke tend to any other ende [...]hen that mariadge is vnclennes euen in [...]hem that be no priests: you wold thinke [...]araduenture that no suche absurdite can [...]asse Martins pen / but as ye shall finde [...]he same in sondry other places so shall ye [...]inde it speciallye in sence / aswell in the 20 [...]eafe where he aleadgeth that mariadge was diswaded by Constantine: as in the [...]8. leafe pag 2.

Wher he maketh a loud lie of the scrip­tures inforcinge himeselfe to proue it / Martin belieth the scripture. by these wordes where he saieth. The scrip­tures cal it in a maried man vnclennes to [...]ye with his owne wife. Saint Paul sayth Heb. xiii. the maried mās bed is cleā and Martin saieth contrary that it is vncleane. By the whiche wordes ye maye see what a lying beaste Martin is / for it is euidēt that the scrip­tures in the 13 to the Heb. doe call the maried mās beed [...] an vndefiled bed / a pure / a clean / and an vnspotted bed and suche a bedde / as a spirituall manne that is to saye any manne who is indued with Goddes spirite (as I haue declared maye lie in. Yea suche a bedde as he must [Page 38] and as he is commannded to lye in / All such as ha­ue [...]t the guift of [...] [...]f be cō ­maūded by S. Paule to ma [...]y. yf haue not the guift of sole life / as by ma [...]fest and plain words / Saint Paule b [...]deth and chargeth sainge [...] the Imperatiue mode / [...]. / Yf they refrain not / them marry / or (as if he shuld say) I c [...]maund them to marry. Mat. xix. Ep. iiij. j. Cor. vij. Which comma [...]dement is not geuen by Saint Paule suche men as haue cast away the feare God / but to suche as be indewed [...] Gods spirite / and therfore spiritual [...] Howbeit as no one spirituall mā hath [...] spirituall gyftes / but eueryman hath [...] proper or seuerall gyft of God / this [...] thus / ād another man otherwyse: so hat [...] not euery spirituall man the gyft of [...] lyfe as Christ witnesseth Matth. 19. [...] for that cause is the holy state of matrim [...]ny ordeined / that such as haue not th [...] gyft of virginitie may lyue in that hol [...] state / without departing from the perfec [...]tion of a Christen man. Which saying se [...]meth to Martin a great absurditie. [...] Saint Paule (ye see by his commaund [...]ment) is of this mynde. Clemens Alex­andrinus [...], li. 7. And Clemens Al [...]ādrinus (who wrote about 220 yeres afte [...] Christ (descrybing the parfect Christiā [...] spirituall mā / sayth amōg other proper [...]ties [Page 39] / [...]. that is that [...] doth eat / and drink / & marieth a wi­ [...]e: & for a profe of his saying he addeth / Mariadge is cleannes. [...]hat the perfect Christiā may boldly / ma [...]y [...] for asmuch as [...]e hath (saith he) The Apostles for his example / The Apostels had wyues. Signifieng & declaring ther­by both the cleanes of mariadge and that the Apostels had wiues. And the uery same sayng in effect he hath in his third boke of the sāe argumēt / whose uery words as they be wrytten in grek I will differr vntill another place where they shall ser­ue this aswell as other purposes. In this matter more profes be not requisite / consideringe the clearnes of this doctrine a­greeth fully with the preachinge of the most aunceant Doctours and wryters / whom Martins rayling tonge accusing vs / calleth with vs / new procedinge preachers: And yet somwhat more then ned­eth is not vnnedefull for such as be so farre gon as nothinge allmost will bringe them back again / whom I would therfore should harken a litle further.

Yf a man should demand of S. Paule why he gaue this com̄aundemēt of mariadge to suche as had receaued gods spirit [Page 40] and haue not the gyft of sole lyfe? Can [...] think he wold make any other answer [...] that whiche he hath allready made? [...]. Corin. 7. whi [...] is melius est nubere quàm uri .i. it is better mary then to burn? Martyn is a­gainst S. Paule. wherupon it folowe [...] that Saint Paules iudgement is contr [...]ry to Martyns: for by this his answer it plain that the fellowship and company [...] woman is a mean to a spirituall man [...]stey him in the perfection of Christs reli [...]on. Mariadge helpeth the godly man that hath not the gyft of sole lyfe to the state of perfection. And that a single and a wyueles ly [...] to such men as haue not the gyft of abstin [...]ence / is not a mean to continew the spirit [...]all man in the same perfection / but rathe [...] a means to bringe him to burning and de [...]struction: And it must also folow / that [...] the second parte of Martins first condici [...]onall / he maketh a lowd lye / sainge. Yf th [...] fellowship and company of a woman be [...] a spirituall man a mean to perfect religi [...]on / etc. Then Christs holy Apostels and the aunceant fathers of the churche hau [...] taught vs a wrong doctrine. For it is pro [...]uid both that the company of a wyfe or (a [...] Martin frowardly termeth it) of a woman is a helping mean to make that man per­fect in religion who being without a wife & laking that gyft / Gen. [...]. hath an imperf [...]tion Of this doctrine almightie God is a wit­nes [Page 41] saying / let vs mak to mā a helper: Martyn holdeth that God made to him a hynderer. And that this is no wrong doctrin but a trew taught by Christ and his apostels: Thesome of that I haue said may be knit vp in this brefe reason thus. Saint Paule (as Ihaue alledged) gaue suche in commaundement / as cold not absteyn / to marry. A Syllogisme But S. Paule commaundid nothinge that might hin­er the perfection of a Christian mans re­ligion. Ergo mariadge is no hinder­aunce to the perfection of a Christē mans religion.

Yet then procedeth Martin further on the other side / Martyn be [...]y­et the preathers in kyng Ed­wards dayes. beginning with a (but) and proceding with an (Yf) inferring cō sequently two suppositions / and would therby induce the reader first to beleue that somme in England haue taught in king Edwars dayes the som̄e of our religion to stand in wiuing. And then secon­daryly he sayth that Christ alowed suche as absteyn from mariadge thoughe they haue not the gyft. What some haue ta­ught I can not say but this I am able to say / that it was no doctrine generally alowed / Therfore because both the suppositions be most manifestly false it may well [Page 42] appeare that Martin and his fellowe [...] seek nothing but matter wherupon [...] wrangle / as the godly preachers in kin [...]ge Edwards dayes / sought nothinge m [...]re then to set furth the playne trueth and the lawfull / and honorable Chasti [...]tie of mariadge / how so euer Martin vnchaste tonge / is not ashamed to babell▪

And when he hath raylyd a whyl [...] euen in the very beginninge of his book then he departeth from suppositions to fayer and [...]at lyenge / lest all the body beinge made of lyenge and raylyng should lack a head / lyke vnto it self. These be his words.

‘ Martin.YF a man will way the matter indifferently the opinion of such can employ no suspicion of vntreuth / whi­che [Page 43] whiche seke nothing but austeritie of lyfe and theyr own paine.’

I marueile muche that Martin is not ashamed to commend his fonde opinion / Winchester. with the fained austeritie & sharpnes of the fatte bellied Prie [...]es whom he wold seeme to defende. The whole stu­dy of the Pa­pists is to increase ther plesures and to maintai­ne belly fare. All the world seeth that there hole lyf is spent allmost in nothin­ge els then in eating and drinkinge / in ydell walkinge and pastymes / ād in prouidinge for furringe of there bak / and fattinge of there belly / and in gorgeosly deckid chambers / and soft slepinge. For maintenaunce wherof I report me to all the world what paynes they take in purchasinge pluralities / tot quots non resy­dences / etc. that they may heap prebend apon prebend / and benefice apon benefi­ce / least at any tyme there back / or there belly / should lack of there lust. Some papistes win the har [...]es of the peple with gluttonye. Fearin­ge least ther spare godly dyet should cau­se there neighbours to call them nigards

Knowinge that belly fare is a better meanes to wyn the harts of the ignorāt and common peple / then is the doctrine of the punishement of the body and of the austeritie of lyf. And knowing also / that he shall be praysed for good / thoughe he be neuer so euell / Yf he [Page 44] kepe a great house (as they call it) and [...]ly good chere. I maruayle I saye / bu [...] whither doth not impudency cary the pa [...]pists? I pray the Martyn what kind of peple haue more deceaued the world then suche as haue colorid there naught [...]ines with austeritie of lyfe / The pre [...]ense of hard lyf hath deceaued all Christendom. and seme t [...] differ from other in outward state? Th [...] Phariseis / the Esseis / & such lyke here [...]tiques / who trubled the church of God both before and in Christs tyme / who w [...]re more commendid of the peple for ther [...] austeritie of lyfe then they? The practises wherby the old heretiques gatther estimacion. and who we­re worse? The aunceant heretiques in the begin̄inge of the churche for the most parte did wyn̄ ther first estimation: some 1 by abhorring all Mariadges / saynge they were vnclean and deuelishe as Sa­turninus 2 and Basilides / etc. Ireneus. Some (of whome Ireneus writeth) that thei ab­horred mariadges / Speakinge a­gainst mariad­ge / brought the old heretiques in to estimatiō. and absteyned from flesh / huiusmodi continentia seducentes multos .i. seducinge many with suche continency and refrayninge. And these were with­in 3 137. yere after Christ. Some by condempnig second mariadges for a filthy thin­ge as Montan 170. yere after Christe. And nouatus 244. yere after Christ / and many other as hereafter I shall more largely [Page 45] [...]eclare. Some by cōdempninge the ma­ [...]adge 4 of priests as Eustachiani: and all [...]e old heretiques / whose example the Pa [...]ists do folow: Epiphanius Her. xiij. Some by fastinge ād ab [...]inence 5 as Epiph. Her .13. witnesseth of Dotheus that he fastid so muche with bread [...]nd water in a caue in the wildernes that [...]e pined himself a way for lack of suffici­ [...]nt sustinance. Some by neuer speaking 6 with there mouth / but kepinge sylence [...]ontinually as monks do in their cloyst­ers: Some by offeringe there bodies to 7 martirdome / as both Theodoret / and Saint Austen and other Witnes of the 8 Donatistes / Some by scourging themselues / and punishinge there flesh. Saint Austen de heresibus. Theodoret / de Hereticis fabu­lis: And of these abstinences and straytnes of lyuin­ge differinge from all other men of most sober and godly lyfe / & How sondry heretiques / ga [...] sundry names punishinge ther bodies / many of these heretiques had their names. As Encratitae of abstinence / Apostolici / of there holines / Pa [...]talorinchitae / of si­lence / Flagelliferi of scourginge themsel­ues / and Ieiunantes of fastinge and suche lyke. Haue not monkes / fryers / nonnes / hermets / recluses / and anchors / and su­che other the Popes creatures who dece­aued all Christendom with pretendinge [Page 46] austeritie of lyf / and there owne payne?

Nothinge is better to wynn [...] [...]f the igno [...]a [...] [...]en [...].Who knoweth not that no meanes is better to wynn the harts of the ignorant then superstit [...]on? Who knoweth not that by no meanes soner the hart of the ignoraūt is lost then by playne dealinge / playn speakinge / and trueth? Doth Martin thīke that the Phariseis had preuailid against Christ / if the outward shew of there Austere and strayte lyfe / had not made them seem in the eyes of the ignorant more verteous then Christ and his Apostels? The Phariseis appearid to the peple [...]olyer thē Christ. How a strayte lyfe deceaueth the peple it is in a bok ascribid to Saint Austen plentifully declared in the 21. Sermon ad Fratres in Heremo speakinge a­mongest other things of the heretiques that were callid Sarabaitae / Saint Austen ad [...] in [...]e­remo se [...]mo xxj. and these be his words. Tales fuerunt illi Sarabaitae, de quibus nobis tertio scripsit pater Hieronimus, quorum genus est omni affectu uitandum. Ipsi de­n [...] (que) in Aegypto erant in foraminib. petrarum ha­bitantes. Induti porcorum & boum pellibus tan­tum, cincti funibus palmarum, spinas ad calcanea portan [...]e [...], ad cingulum ligatas, Discalceati & san­guine cruentati cauernas excuntes ad festum sce­nopegiae pergebant Hierosolymam, & sancta [Page 47] [...]ctorum intrantes, paupertatem & abstinenti­ [...] praedicabant, omni affectu seruare, Bar­ [...]s postmodum in conspectu hominum sine re­ [...]mptione euellere festina [...]ant, & sic acquisita fa [...]a, & lucro, ad propria remeabant, solitarie gau­ [...]ntes & epulantes supra id, quod explicare pos­ [...]nus. Hos obsecro nolite imitari, & caetera.

That is to say. The hypocrisie of the Hereti­ques named Sarabaits sy [...] to the hypoc [...]i [...]y of the Papists. Such were the Heretiques callid Sarahaitae of whome [...]ther Hierom hath wryten to vs this [...]hird tyme. Whose fashion is by all [...]eans to be a voyded. They abode in Egipt in caues of rockes / clothed only [...]ith the skins of swyne and oxenn / & [...]ere gyrdid with withes of palme trees [...]nd being bare fotid they tyed thornes [...]o there gyrdels which knockid and [...]ricked them apon the heeles / and they [...]ent out all blody to Hierusalem to [...]he feast of Tabernacules / and enteringe [...]he holy of the holyest / they did preach [...]he obseruation of pouertie and abstin­ [...]nce with all affection.

Who wold not iudge these men holly? They pullid of the heare of there beards [...] the sight of the peple / and so gettinge [Page 48] boeth fame and vantage / they return [...] home priuily / reioysyng and banketing aboue measure. I would faine learne Martin nowe whether austeritie of li [...] that is contrary to the commen vsag e [...]ploye suspycion of vntruth or not / by t [...] iudgdment of this author? A strait life [...] good when it is ioyned with a treuth / [...] it was in holy Ihon Baptiste / etc. B [...] whē a strait life is ioyned with a falshod as it is in all the popes creatures and [...]ther sectaries and heritiques / the me [...]bres of Antichrist: The holy mayd of [...]ymster / Sir Thomas more. The holy mayd of kent. ther is nothing mo [...] perilous then straitenes of lyfe. Wh [...] lecherose lyfe led the holy maide of Lym [...]ster pretending her foode to bee nothing els but the masse caake. As Sir Thoma [...] More witnesseth in his dialoge. Wh [...] bawdry practised the holy? nay the deue [...]she mayde of kent / with Monks fryer [...] and preests vnder the color of strayt nu [...]nishe lyfe / as appereth partly by the act o [...] parliament / but more largely in the bo [...]ke of her lyf? And within this eight yere was there not a holy mā named maiste [...] Doctour boord a Phisicion that thryse i [...] the week would drink nothinge but wa [...]ter / The chastite of Do. boord the Papist discoueuered at Win­chester. such a proctour for the Papists thē as Martyn̄ the lawier is now? Who vn [...]der [Page 49] the color of uirginitie / and of wear­ [...]ge of a shirte of heare / D. Bourd a phisiciō to ease and help Po­pish priests to kepe there virgi­nitie. and hanginge [...]is shroud and socking / or buriall sheet [...] his beds feet / and mortifyeng his bo­ [...]y / and straytnes of lyfe / kept thre who­ [...]s at ōce in his chambre at Winchester / [...]serue / not ōely him self / but also to help [...]e virgin preests about in the contry [...]s it was prouid / That they might with [...]ore ease & lesse payn keepe theire bles­ [...]d uirginitie. This thinge is so trew / [...]nd was so notoriously knowen / that the [...]atter cam to examination of the iusti­ [...]s of peace / of whom dyuerse be yet ly­ [...]inge / as Sir Ihon kingsmill / Sir Hē ­ [...] Semar / etc. And was before them [...]onfessed / and his shrowd & sheart of he­ [...]r openly shewed / and the harlots openly [...] the stretes / & great churche of Whin­ [...]ester punished. These be knowen stor [...]es whiche Martin and the Papists can [...]ot denye / And they know well enoug­ [...]e themselues / that there be of the lyke [...]housands / whiche I omitt for brefenes / [...]hat destroy this assertion of Martins / [...]rouinge him a false lyer in this point. When the deuell by losenes of liuinge / ap [...]eareth in his owne forme / he can not so [...]asyly deceaue the world as otherwise / [Page 50] wherfore who seeth not that he vseth t [...] put on a vysor of holines / of the punishe [...]ment of the body / and austeritie of lyfe a [...] oftē as he myndeth thorowly to deceaue [...] Which thīge he hath most perfectly bro [...]ught to passe in all the orders of Anti [...]christ. Of Popes / Cardinals / Buszho [...]pes / preests / monks / Chanons / fryers etc. To the perfect establishment of bug [...]gery of whoredom ād of all vngodlynes and to the vniuersall ruine of the true fa­ith of Christs trew religion / & of all ver­trew and godly lyfe. And for cumpas­singe of this enterpryse / Doctor Marti [...] the lawyer is become the deuils Secre­tary / who being taught by his master [...] taketh diligent heed throughout his bo­ok / that in no wyse he geue any kynde o [...] praise or commendaciō to matrimony in any kinde of peple. Martins dys­praises of matrimonie in his booke Fol Cxxiiij But termeth it som­tyme (carnall libertie) somtyme (the bas­est state of lyfe in the churche of God) sō ­tyme (a color of bawdry) somtyme (tha [...] it is a let for a man togeue himself who [...] lye to God. Fo. Cxxv.) Somtyme that (it is a dou­bling / Fo. Cxj. rather thē a takinge away the de­syer of flesh) making himself therin wy­ser then God who gaue it for a reme­dye against the lasciuiousnes of the fles [...] [Page 51] [...]s God him selfe witnessed when he sayd [...]ciamus ei adiutorium lette vs make Adam [...] helper. Gene. 2 Martin his abominable doct [...]ine concer­ninge mariadge agreinge with Mōtanus and Tatianus and suche other heri­tiques. And in the leaues .121. & 122. [...]e goethe aboute to proue by Saynte [...]aule that all menne should auoide ma­ [...]iadge. Wher by he confirmeth the o­ [...]inions of Montanus, Tatianus / and suche o­ [...]ther abhominable heritiques.

And where as Martine for the maintenaunce of his Herisie / alledgeth Eusebius speakinge of the Heritique Che­ [...]inthus / as thoughe he hadde framed / or [...]ather writhed the Scriptures / for the maintinaunce of hys incontinencye / whiche stode as Eusebius saith in eatynge and drynkynge and mariadge: Euseb. li. v Cap. xxviii. Ye shall vnderstande that neither Eusebius nor none other olde authoure speakinge of the he­risie of Cherinthus doe iudge him to speake of the mariadge in thys lyfe / Martin vn­derstandeth not Eusebius. Hiero. in Ezech ca. xxxvi. Augu. de heresibus. but that (as Sainte Hierom more largelye decla­reth vpon the 36 Chapter of Ezechiell / and Sainte Austen de haeresibus And Eusebius in the same place thoughe more obscurelye then the reste) Cherinthus was [...]. The opinion of Cherinthus concerning ma­riadge in the life to come.

Whose opinion was that we should liue in the earth pleasantly a 1000. yeares not in these daies / and before our death or before oure resurrecciō / but that after our [Page 52] resurrection we shuld eat and drink and marri / and cease from offeringe bulles & ram̄es & other sacrifices: with the which opinion Saint Hierom in the same pla­ce chargeth Tertulian, Lactantius and Irenaeus and other mani of the old fathers who w [...]re not without their errours being men / that Saint Hierom ād the ould wryters declare that Cerinthus was not condem [...]pnid for allowinge of lawfull mariadge in this lyfe / as Martin out of Eusebius contrary to the mynde of other Doctours wold seem to proue / nor yet for alowing of bawdry vnder the color of matrymony as his tonge most vnhonestly delyteth to terme it. Theodoret lib ij [...]. But for that he taught a new earthly kingdom of Christe / and of a new Hierusalem after our resurrection as Theodoret wryteth / wherin we should eat and drink & marry / in the lyfe to cum (I say) and not in the lyfe present. Wherby ye may easely iudge how this allegacion maketh nothing for Martins purpose. Martyn confirmeth [...]ne lye with [...]nother. Whiche was also fearid (as it should seem) of Martin / and therfore he confir­meth his matter with āother lye saying.

‘And therfore Cerinthus made a gener­all doctrine that men should satisfie the­re [Page 53] fleshly prouocations by eating and [...]rinkinge and marieng.’This is one of Martins shameles lyes / for neither was [...]hat the opinion of Cerinthus (as I ha­ [...]e declarid) nether doth the old wryters [...]o report it / so that in this place Mar­ [...]ins lye is manifest. But one thinge I [...]hall desier the to note in this allegacion [...]hat he reporteth not Cerinthus / to satis­fie his fleshly prouocations by eatinge & drinking and whoredom: But by eatin­ge and drinkinge and mariadge. Martin seketh meanes how to bring the holy state of matri­mony in to con­tempt. Wher­by the reader may see that Martin wold fayne haue mariadge allowed by a gene­rall doctrin of Cerinthus the heretique / purposly wrything Eusebius from the con­sent of the other oulde Doctours / that he might haue som color therby to condem­pne mariadge / as a thinge by some here­tique approuid. Wherby thow mayst learn good reader / that no doctrine is so false / no opinion so perelose / no blasphe­my so horrible / but Martyn wold admitt it / so that he might therbi hauesome help wherwith to bark against the mariadge of priests. And in deed if he could brin­ge the profe to passe that all mariadges were vncleane & wicked / as by this his [Page 54] allegacion of Eusebius he semeth to intend then shoulde his conclusion easely folow A genere ad speciem uniuersaliter / that also th [...] mariadge of priestes were vncleane an [...] wicked: but this maior neither Martī / ne [...]ther neuer a papist that euer was / shalb [...] hable to proue / Note therfore good read [...] howe busilye Martin laboreth to gett [...] him some maiors / and groundes / for th [...] maintenaunce of his wicked purpose. Whiche when he fyndeth good / he failet [...] in the profe of hys minor or meane pro [...]posicion: and being false (as ye se this is [...] he not onelye leaseth his laboure: but also sheweth himselfe what an enemie he is to the treuth. when of purpose by vntreuthe he seketh the maintenaunce of his deue­lishe opinion. That Ioui­nian was nott the f [...]rst heritique that preached in Rome contra­rie to Martin. And to amende this matter withall / by and by Martin com­meth forth with Another lye / sayinge.

That Iouinian the monke was the firste heritique that preached in Rome.

Another lie of Martin.For yf it be trewe that Peter was at Rome and disputed there with Simon Magus as Eusebius, Epiphanius, Irenaeus, and other do witnesse.

And also that Simon Magus (docuit) taught there / as Iraeneus witnesseth / and further that he hadde so perswaded the Romains [Page 55] wyth hys doctrine that they reysed vp a piller in his honoure / with this writing vpon it: Irenaeus lib. 2. cap. 20. Simoni Deo sancto / To Simon the holly God / as Eusebius / Theodoret / ād other do also testifie / And moreouer yf it be trew that Martiō the heritique prea­ched at Rome in the time of Policarpus Busshop of Smirna 160. yeare after Christe as Ieraenus witnesseth / Irenaeus li. 3. cap. 3. And also that Cerdo the heritique came to Rome in the tyme of Higinius 144 yeare after Christe as Euse­bius witnesseth libro quarto Cap. 8 Eusebius lib. iiij. cap. vlij.

Item that Nouatus the Anabap­tiste taught in Rome in the time of Pope Fabianus 255. yeare after Christe.

Item that Pope Liberius was an Arian in the tyme of Constantyne and preached in Rome as Platina witnesseth / Pope Liberius was an hereti­que. Platina. Yf (I saye) all these thynges bee trewe (as they be of these olde and credible au­thoures reported) then must this be Ano­ther of Martins lies / for Iouiniā was 400 years after Christe & lōge after these heritiques whome I haue aleaged as by the yeares doeth plainely appeare. All these were before Iouinian / & heritiques / and at Rome / & preached or taught ther. Ergo Io [...]inian was not the furst. But if Martin wold excuse himself by that which he [Page 56] addeth (as he saieth) out of Saint Hie­rom / as he pretendeth / and as by the no­te in the margent it should seem that h [...] wold / ‘That Iouinian the mōke was the first heretique that preached in Rome / that there was no differēce betwixt uir­ginitie & matrimonie:’Yet can not Mar [...]tin so saue himself otherwise thē one who for defending of his legges toke a blow vpon the face. For I assuer the good re­ader this is as great a lye as the other / Yt is a lye I say that this saying whiche Martin both by the text and note in the margent ascrybeth to be sayd by Saint Hierom in the furst and second epistle vnto Iouinian / Martin falseli belieth Saint Hierom. for it is in neither of them both / but is a matter of Martyns own forginge & framinge / Though the thing it self be of no great importance / yet is it not vnneedfull to shew how shamefully / these Papists belye the ould authors.

Martin yet can not thus be contentid but procedeth from one lye to annother. ‘Saying that The new superindēts (meaning the godli preachers in bleszid king Edward the vj his daies) taught all one doctrine with Iouinian. Another lye of Mar [...]ns.’ Which was as Martin alledged out of Saint Hierom. ‘ [Page 57] [...]ast seldom but marry often for ye cā not [...]onsummate the works of matrimony on [...]es ye eat and drink delicatly.’ Thow shalt [...]ote good reader / in this allegaciō Mar [...]īs ignoraūce / for he taketh these words [...] spoken by Iouinian / when in deed [...]hey are but fayned of Saint Hierom & [...]ronice obiectid to Iouinian / Martyn is de­ceaued by a pa­ralogisme of S. Hierom. lib. ij. aduersus Iouinianū in fine. as althou­ghe this was not by him taught in play­ [...]e words / yet that it was agreable to his [...]octrine. But Martin taketh it as [...]hough it had beē Iouiniās own words. Note also that S. Hierom in this place [...]peaketh not of the mariadge of preests [...]ut of secōd mariadges generally / obiec­ting to Iouinian as a licentius & an vn­godly doctrīe to teach the peple that they might vse second & often mariadge. Sant Hierom was notid of his frinds as an enemy of se­cond mariad­ges / and ma­keth an excuse for his so doin­ge. And this opinion of Saint Hierom was no­tid by his frinds / wherof after aduertise­ment he pourged himself in his Apolo­gie made for the same purpose. But let vs graunt that these words were not fayned by Saint Hierom. I pray the Martynn / how canst thow be hable to iustifie that this was the Doctrine of the preachers in England / whom contemptuosly thow callest (superintēdents?) Our whole doctrine wherin we consentid touchin­ge [Page 58] ffastīge Prayer and Mariadge etc. i [...] plainly and fully set forth in the books o [...] cōmon prayers / The doctrine set forth by the Preachers in Englād in writing proueth Martin a lyar the Homelies the Cat [...]techismes and the Artickles wherapo [...] the whole realme concludid / Yf thow cā [...] fynd in these books any suche doctrin [...] than maist thow say that we agreed wit [...] Iouinian in case he had taught such doc [...]trine. But yf thow cāst not fynde this do [...]trine / whiche thow saiest was Iouinian [...] in those books / then may we boldly sa [...] that thow doest falsly belye vs. Our doc [...]trine was not kept so secret / but that i [...] was not only preached / but also printid & so printid that it hath the testimony of th [...] whole realme. And is safly enoghe pre­serued out of the hands of the proudest o [...] yow. Wherfor neither thow Martin / no [...] no mā ells cā misreporte vs touching our doctrine but they shall haue both these bo [...]oks the acts of parliament / the subscrip­tions of the clergie / yea and your own subscriptions / and the testimonies of the whole realme against thē. And touchīge your lyes that ye charg vs / as teachers of carnall libertie (whiche is thy whole in­tent in this place / there were sondry spe­ciall [Page 59] homelies / which shalbe a witnes [...]hat thow / and thy felowes be lyers as [...]onge as thy booke shall continew / ye as longe as the World shall continew / though ye slander / rayle and rage vntill your bellies brust in peces / ye and burn the books as fast as ye will there be copies enow left to print a thou­sand in a moneth.

ANd further wheras it pleasith martyn not only in this place but also herafter to gest at the name of Superintendent / That Martin maliciosly gesteth at the good name of super­intendent. he sheweth himself bent to condempne all things that be good / tho­ughe in so doinge he can not avoyde his open shame. Who knoweth not that the name Busshop hath so been abusid / that when it was spoken the peple vnderstode [Page 60] nothinge els but a great lord / tha [...] went in a whyte rochet / with a wyde sha [...]uen crown / and that carieth an oyle box [...] with him / wherwith he vseth ōce in sea [...]uen yeres rydinge about to confirme chi [...]dren / etc. Now to bringe the peple fro [...] this abuse / what better means cā be de­uisid / then to teach the peple ther error by another word out of the scriptures / of the same signification? which thing by the terme (superintendēt) wold in tyme haue been well brought to passe. For the or­dinary paynes of suche as were called su­perintendents / shuld haue taught the pe­ple to vnderstand the dewtie of there bus­hop / which you Papists wold fayne haue hidden from them. And the word (superintēdent) being a very latin word made English by vse / should in tyme haue taught the peple by the very etymologie & and proper significatiō / what thīge was ment when they hard that name / which by this terme Bushop / could not so well be donne / by reason that bushops in the time of Popery were ouerseers in name / but not in deed. So that there doinge could not teache the peple there names / neither what they shuld loke for at there bushops hāds. For the name bushop / spoken [Page] amongest the vnlerned / signified to [...]em nothinge lesze then a preacher of Gods word / because there was not / nor [...] any thinge more rare in any order of [...]cclesiasticall parsons / then to see a busz­ [...]op preache: Wherof the doīgs of the po [...]ishe buszhops of England can this day [...]itnes / but the name (superintendent) [...]hould make him ashamed of his negli­ [...]ence / and a frayd of his ydelnes / know­ [...]ng that Saint Paule doth call apon him [...]o attēd to himself & to his whole flock / Act. xx. Of the which sentēce our bushops mark [...]he first peece right well (that is) to take [...]ede to them selues / but they be so deafe [...]hat they can not herkē to the second (that [...]s) to look to there flock: I denie not but [...]hat the name (busshop) may be well ta­ [...]ē / but because the euelnes of the abuse / hath marrid the goodnes of the word it can not be denied but that it was not a­misse to ioyne for a tyme another word with it in his place / wherby to restore [...]hat abusid word to his right signification. And the name (superintēdēt) is such a name that the Papists themselues (sau­inge such as lack both lerninge & wit) can not fynde falt withall. The Papist Peresius parte tertia aloweth the terme of su­perintendent. For Peresi­us the spaniard / & an Archepapist / (ou [...] [Page] of whom Martin hath stolē a great part [...] of his boke) speaking of a buszhop saieth Primum Episcopi munus nomē ipsum praese fert, quod est superintendere: Episcopus enim super [...]intendens interpretatur, uisitans aut superuidens [...] that is to say. The chefe office of a bushop by interpretatiō / signifieth a Superin­tendent / Martyn hath stolen common places out of Peresius the spanish Papist a Visitor or an Ouerseer. Why did not Martyn aswell steale this peece outof Peresius as he did steale all the cō [...]mon places that he hath for the profe of the Cannons of the Apostels / and of Traditions in his second and third chapters? And also the most parte of all the authorities that be there patched together / and most fasly and vnlernedly wrythed / from gods treuth out of the generall counsels and old wryters through out his booke. None be more blynde then they whose ey­es be put out with malice. Martin in the lxxx [...]iij. leaf of his booke. Martyn in the 88 leafe is not ashamed in his booke to deuide the significatiōs of the termes (busshop) & (superintendent) as thoughe the one were not signified by the other.

But it may be that Martyn ād the rest of the popishe sect / wold not haue the na­me of ( Superintendent) or Minister vsid / lest that name whiche did put the peple in re­membraunce of sacrificīge and bludsup­pinge [Page 62] should be forgotten. The Papists do studie to dri­ue men from knowledge to ignoraunce. Blyndnes [...] ignoraunce is the rediest way to brin­ [...]e the heresie of the Papists into estima­ [...]on. wherfore when the peple is most [...]lynde / thē shall these heretiques be most [...]stemed. We Christiās vse no words nor [...]earmes commonly in setting furth the [...]cclesiasticall ord of prayers or in the mi­ [...]istration of the holy Sacraments / or in [...]aming the ministers therof / or of any o­ [...]her thinge therunto belonginge / onles we haue some ground of scripture aswell for the name / as for the thinge. yet that not withstandinge / the reader may see we can not auoyd the bytīge of ther malicio­se mouthes. But I pray the good read [...]oke againe on the other syde / what a nō ­ [...]er of things and names they haue deui­sed / & daily do deuise / without any groūd either of God or of good men. The Papists find fault with the names diui­sid by the holy gost. The papists haue no scripture for the defence of the names of there own sha­uelings. Oh how the Papists wold triumph ouer vs / ifthei had like profe for the names & things of there diuisinge / for the names (I say) of Pope / Cardinal / legat / suffragan / Cannō Prebendary / Monke / Non̄e / Heremet / Anchor / Chanon / ffryer / and all the rest of the vyprose generation and ofspringe of the Pope / as we that professe Christ / haue for the maintaince of the termes and [Page 64] names of (Superintendent) minister [...] Seniors / Elders / Brethren / & suche lik [...] by vs vsid? But this help of the scripture [...] not withstandinge they lak / yet is no [...] Martin & his felowes ashamed to char­ge our names / which begā with the new Testament / with the reproche of newnes / geuinge to the names of there own deui­singe / the prayse of old Antiquitie / tho­ughe suche names were not knowen to the church of Christ / many hundreth ye­res after Christs ascension. Wherfore thow mayst see good reader / that they a­buse thyne eares whē they say there doc­trine is the elder / empeachinge our doc­trine with the reproche of newnes. And therwith thow mayst also perceaue / that this is one of there sleyghts wherby to begg of the / our discredit and there owne estimation. With whiche inconuenien­ce I thought good to meet in the begin­ninge / because Martins rayling pen is euer busy with this practise. Now to procede / I will reherse Martyn / whyles he wandreth stryuinge to proue by sundry places of Doctors patched together without either ground / or good order: that heresy / and lechory be cōmonly ioyned to­gether. Wherin I wold not greatly ha­ue [Page 65] stand with him yf he wold haue delt plainely / trewly / and syncerely. But he hath cast suche a mist before the eyes of the reader with cryēg out (heresy lechory thefe and traytor) that no man lyuinge wold iudge any man of so impudent o [...]pirite / thus shamelesly to abuse suche a­ [...]iose names against the giltles / when he & his felowes (the treuthe beinge kno­wen) be of all men lyuinge most faultye [...]n those vyces. Neuertheles when I con [...]ider the prophecies spokē before / of this wicked generatiō I cease maruaylinge & perceaue well that they must needs be of that sort and nomber whom the scryp­ [...]ure nameth painted sepulchres / the com [...]any of syn̄ers / The churche malignant / The Synagoge of Sathan / The right na­mes of the Pa­pistes. Trees with [...]ut frute dumm dogges / deaf Serpents (as the scripture reporteth / of suche) wol [...]es / Beares / Lyōs / Add's frye / false pro [...]hets / false Apostles / infideles / wearers of whores faces / The companiōs of the [...]es / Murtherers of the Saints of God [...]he enemies of the Crosse of Christe / the [...]ompany of dissemblers / and the churche [...]f hypocrytes etc. These names I know Martin and his felowes will refuse / be [...]ause they loue nothinge worse then the [Page 66] trew confession whiche is the testimony of right repentance. And because all these names may well be includid vnder the name of (Heretique) wherwith am­ongst other Martyn so often / and so hor­riblye barketh against us: I haue tho­ught good before I procede further / to ioine with Martyn and all the rest of his sect for tryall wheather of vs be most worthy of the name (heretique.) And in conclusion / when it shall appeare by playne demōstratiō whether of vs both is the heretique in deed / let then him haue lechory / & theft / and Treason / and what other vyce ye will an̄exid vnto him in the name of God. For I am contentid also to graūt to Martyn to help him forward that vy­ces be lyncked / and coupled as vertewes together. I [...]. 2. For Saint Iames saieth he that offendeth in one / offendeth in all / for so muche as he becom̄eth gylty of all. Wherby thow mayst see good read / that Martyn nedeth not to haue stand long about the profe of this point .i. (that here­sie & lechory be cōmonly ioyned to gether) for it is prouid by S. Iames / that vyces hange of suche sort together that whoso [Page 67] [...]fendeth in one mai be charged with all [...]e other: Therfor should Martyn ha­ [...] left of this vnnecessary labor / if he min [...] to touche maried priests / and should [...]ther haue trauayled in the profe of his [...]inor / that is to say that maried priest [...] [...] heretiques / And that those two vyces [...]resy and lechory meet together in all [...]aried priests. But this thing Mar­ [...] hath left vndone / by means wherof [...]s cauillatiō is discouerid / Yea and it is [...]rteine that many olde heriques lyuide [...]astly touchinge the body. Yet that this [...]inge may more euidently appeare vn­ [...]the / I will sett brefly before thine eies [...]e whole som̄e of this reason / which he [...]tendeth at large / but hydeth notwith­ [...]dinge from thee / the minor or mean pro [...]sitiō: because he can not proue it / Thus [...] reasoneth. Martins reason. Martin fai­letht in the profe of this minor. Heresy and lechory becom [...] only ioyned together: but all maried [...]iests be heretiques / ergo they be lech­ [...]s or cōtrary they be lechors / ergo / they [...] here [...]iques. This is his very reason [...]sence. Now let it be grauntid / that [...]resy and lechory be commonly ioyned [...]gether / yet if he wold by means of [Page 68] there coniunctiō charge the maried [...] with the one (that is to say) with [...] / then must he by demonstration [...] them gylty of the other / that is to [...] of heresy / or els this reason conclud [...] nothinge. And this demōstration sho [...] be the profe of his Minor / whiche in [...] this discourse is no whit prouid. Yt [...] be that you wold couer the folishnes [...] your reason with the term (common [...] but that term (as you haue placid it) [...] you to no purpose / onles it signi [...] (allway). For in the tytell of your [...] chapter you say that Heresy & lechory [...] the ōli causes of priests mariadges wh [...]rupon it should folow (if you had prou [...] it) that all maried priests / not only co [...]monly be / but all be / lechors and heret [...]ques / or els would they neauer marr [...] which generall / being by one particul [...] improuid / as it is plainly by the mari [...]ge of the Apostels / etc▪ your term (co [...]monly can serue to no purpose / but [...] the profe of a common lye / for your d [...]fense. And further your term (co [...]mōly) not taken for (all) maketh your r [...]ason to be from a particular to a gene [...]all / Vinuersaliter ād so vsinge a subteltie [...] [Page 69] [...]histry calllid fallatia consequentis ye play [...] plaine bablinge Sophister / The logique of the Papistes standeth in fal­lacious. whiche [...] must be your reward for your wyse [...]. And on the other syde if ye vse [...] terme (commonly) for allwaies then [...] your ground be / that heresy and [...] be alwaies ioined together / wher [...]n it should folow that all whores / ād [...]remongers be heretiques / but that [...] not be / for ye know wel enough that [...] of your virgin preests may be / Incōueniences that shoulde fo­lowe if all le­chors were heretiques. & [...]ith you / both Sodomittes / ād who [...]ngers / and yet as long as they ma­ [...]ot / be no heretiques but Catholique [...] and good virgin priests still / as [...] & virgins goe in the Popes [...]. And it were a great inconueni­ [...] that the pope and dyuers busshops [...] kepe boyes for filthīes against kyn [...]nd that dyuers of the chefe Doctors [...]ngland and other should for lechory [...]llid either heretiques / or no virgīs· [...]nd it should folow also (amongest a [...] nomber of other whome I both cā will name / D. Martin. D. Stories madge bow [...]er in cramphole in Oxforth. if either I be further dry­ [...]o trauaile in this argument / or els [...]aue that this booke be forbidden [...] may not be red). Master D. Mar [...]mself should be an heretique for kekepinge [Page 70] Alice lamme at the Christop [...] in Oxforde. And doctor Stories [...] lawyer also for kepinge Madge Bo [...]er in Cramphole / et cetera.

A discourse prouinge that all Papists be here [...]ques.NOw to returne to my former p [...]pose. Forasmuch as you haue [...] that heresie and lechory be c [...]monly ioyned together / I am conten [...] reason with Martin for the tryall [...] name of (hereti (que)) wheather of vs is [...]worthie so to be callid / for to him by [...]tins own confession lechory is most c [...]monly annexid. In this discourse [...] conuenient to serch what heresie is / how it is definid. And in this poi [...] wil folow the iudgement of the most [...] and vnsuspec [...]id wryters for pa [...]alitie. [Page 71] which way if thow Martyn hadest folowed in thy booke / thow shouldest not haue had much matter to babell with all

Tertullian in his booke de praescriptioni­bus aduersus haereticos saieth that the greek word [...] signifieth a chosing / Tertullian de­perscriptiōibus. aduersus hereticos. & that of that word be heritiques named. Because they chose out ād take vpon them the de­fense of certein doctrins contrary to gods word. [...]. The [...] of heresy. The causes whiche moue thē thus to doe / be either that they be willfully ig­noraunt / and will not know the scriptu­res / or if they know them they regard thē not / or els couetousnes / and wordly com­modytie / mouith them to inuent such fantasies. And for confirmation of this / Aug. in the begin̄ing of his boke de vtilitate credendi. An heretique is definid. S. Austen in the begin̄inge of his book De utilitate credendi / Against the Manichaeis / maketh this definition of an heretique.

Haereticus est qui alicuius temporalis commodi & maxime gloriae, principatus (que) causa, falsas ac no uas opiniones gignit & sequitur.

An heretique is he who beginneth and foloweth false and new opinions / a­pon hope of wordly commoditie / and to thintēt to be in glorie & authoritie / And this formor definition of Sainte Austen maye bee gathered out of Irenaeus in his 3. boo [...] Cap. 3 Aduersus Valentinum. [Page 72] and out of S. Ciprian in his bok de simpl [...]citate praelatorum and Gratian also aloweth [...] out of S. Austen amongest the popes de [...]crees .24. p. 3: Irenaeus. Cyprianus. 24. q. 3. Her. Her: All these old fathers / and all other of name and antiquitie / ap [...]proue and alow this definitiō of an here [...]tique. The difinition of heresie. So that I may boldly pronounce the definition of Heresie to be this: He­resie is a choyse and a stubborn and fro­ward defense / of certaine opinions and doctrines whiche be cōtrary to gods worde / either by reason of ignoraunce / or of contempt of the same word / therby to atteyn either to lucre / or to estimation. The materiall parte of this definition is the opinions and doctrines cōtrary to Gods word. The formall cause / the choyse and stubborn defense / the efficiēt cause / wher by they be mouid and led to be ignorant / and the contempt of Gods holy word / & a froward will: The Papistes take vpon them the defense of iustification by wor [...]es contra­rie to gods worde and agre the re [...] with Pela­gi [...]s the hereti­que. The finall cause or the end / is the intent to attaine to honor pleasure and wordly riches: Nothinge is there more to be desyred for the perfectiō of this definition. Now then forth with to ioyne with the Martyn / & all the Pa­pists for plaine profe by this definition that ye be all here [...]iques. Haue not you Papists taken apō you the defense of the [Page 73] [...]octrine of iustification by mans works alowing and folowinge the pestilent heretique Pellagius / directly cōtrary to the doctrine of Gods holy word / and aga­ine all the old lerned fathers and Doct­ors in the churche of Christe? Yf ye wold obstinatly say it is not against the scrip­tures / doth not Saint Paule plainly condempne you saing. We think that man is iustified by faith / without the works / of the law? Rom. 2. And againe to the Galati­ans: Yf righteousnes comme by keping of the law / then is Christ dead in vayne? Gal. 2▪

Yea doth not Saint Paule in a nom­ber of places so sett the righeousnes of faith and the rightousnes of works / Rom. 11.14. Ph. 3. Eph. [...] Heb. 11. the one against the other that the one allwai excludeth the other? And in the 8. to the Romaines doth he not say plainly that he is of this opiniō that the afflictions of this life are not worthie the glorie that shall be shewed apon vs? can you avoyd it / but in that place he speaketh of the best kinde of works as sufferinge Mar­tyrdom for Christs sake? Sola fides. etc. But ye re­ply & say / sola fides / ōly faith is not foūd in the scriptures. Doe you not by this replication shew your self blynde either of ignoraunce or of frowardnes? which for [Page 74] one peece of the definicion of an heritiqu [...] knowing that the scriptures hath thi [...] word absque operibus, Rom. 3 Mar. [...] Rom. 3. without workes and ( tantummodo crede) beleue onelie? and ( gra­tis) freely which be euidentlie equiualent▪

Nay saie you againe / the doctors do not so take it▪ As though ye were menne well seen in the doctors / when in deed the moste of you haue read either none of the Doctors / orels fewe other doctors the [...] the ragges of doctors gathered togethe [...] by Gratian with the Popes decrees / and suche like. The papistes do hold that o­nelie faith iusti­fieth is not foūd in the Doctors· And as for thy selfe thy studye and learning is to well knowen to be a­lowed for ōe that is seen in the Doctors. But to the intente it maye appeare to all the worlde / what lienge marchantes you bee / and how falslie you reporte the Doc­tors / for the maintenance of youre heri­resies / I shall shortlie reherse vnto you / a brefe collection out of the doctors / whiche haue the very wordes / Sola fides (only faith iustifieth) Which be the very wordes that you lyke blasphemose members of An­tichrist saie is ranke herisie. Places in the Doctors wher Sola fides iusti­ficat. (that is) o­nely faith iusti­ [...]eth is founde.

Chrysostom vpon the Epistel to the Ga­lathians hath the selfe same wordes that we vse Sola fides iustificat (only faith iustifi­eth) in the 2 and 3 Chapiter / and in his 4 [Page 75] oracion againste the Iewes / And vpon▪ [...] Titum hom 3. And vpon the Epistle to the Hebrues cap. 13. hom. 33. & cap. 4. hom. 7.

And apon Mathew ca. 3. hom. 12. and ad Timoth. ca. 4. hom. 1. & in sermone de fide, lege, & spiritu & in acta. ho. 32.

Basilius magnus in his sermon De humilitat [...].

Gennadius Ro. ca. 5

Theod [...]rus Ro Ca. 5

Cyrillus in Ioan. li. 9. ca. 3.

Hylarius in Mat. cap. 8

Didimus Alexandrinus in 2 cap. Iacobi

Clemens Aexandrinus. [...] lib. 5.

Eusebius histo. ecclesiasti. li. 3. ca. 27

Origen in 3. ca. ad Romanos, & ad Ro. lib. 3. ca. 3. & ad Ro. li. 4. ca. 4.

Hiero. Ro. 4.5. & 10.

Theodoretus Contra graecos li. 7. fo 94. The olde doc [...]tors be against [...] the papistes / and shewe tha [...] they be [...]ers.

Cyprianus in the exposition of the creed. lib. 3. ad Quirinum ca. 42.

Aug. in a sermon of Abraham. 68.

Ambrosius in 3. & 4. ad Ro. et 1. Cor. 1. [...]t in de uocatione gentium ca. 4.

Hysichius lib. 1. cap. 2.

& lib. 4. cap. 14.

Lyra ad Gal. 3.

[Page 76] Saluianus lib. 3. [...]

Glosa ordinaria in Epistolam Iacobi

Haymo in Euangelium de circumsione

Sedulius in 1. & 3. ad Ro. Thomas ad Gal. 3.

Bruno in Epistolam ad Ro. ca. 4.

Erasmus in prolog. ad Ro. In Paraphra.

Ro. 4. and in his .3. book de modo conci­onandi.

Bernhardus 22. in cantica.

Arnobius in Psal. 106.

Now good Reader tell me how D. Smith of Oxford with his bukler of the catholique faith cādefende him from the name of an impudent lyeng heretique? D. Smith in [...]is bukler of [...]he Catholique [...]aith holdeth [...]he contrarie. These places the lerned reader may per­use / and I wold haue wrytten them at large out of the authors / if troubling of the reader ād long wandering from min argument by folowing Martin / had not moued me to the contrary / but I trust this shall suffice to proue the vntreuth of the Papists in alledging the old Doc­tors for the maintenance of their Rom­ish heresie, The Papistes [...]ke vpon them [...] defense of [...]rgatorie con­ [...]arie to Gods [...]orde. They haue also taken apon them to defend that there is a place where paynes euerlasting be turned into temporall / and they haue named that place (without scripture / and of ther oun head [Page 77] Purgatorie and they say they haue authoritie & power / to diminishe the same paines / by their diriges and Masses / which they sell for mony / and by that mean / like craftie theues / py [...]e the pourses of the peple. Do they not defend this doctrine / and deuelishe opiniō with fyer / and rope against the manifest word of god? which not only maketh no mention of any such 1 third place / but also sayeth to the thefe / 2 Lu. [...]3. Lu. 7. Phi. 1. Hodie mecum eris in Paradiso, This day shalt thow be with me in Paradise? And thy 3 faith hath made the whole goe in peace.

And Saint Paule shewing the cause why he desyred to be out of this lif / was 4 that he might, esse cū Christo, be with Chri­ste / neither fearing nor mencioninge any 5 stai by the wai as the popishe heretiques [...]each in purgatorie. In the old Te­stament ther was neauer sa­crifice offerid for the dead. And this is nota­ble / in the old Testament / that sacrifices were offered for all sortes of peple / for kings / for preests / for lepers / etc. But ye shall neuer read that any sacrifice was offered for the dead / shall we think that so long tyme God wold forget the dead? that he wold so lōge suffer them to lye in the fier of purgatorie? The pope ye say can delyuer whom he will out of that prison: Yf it be trew / is he not a tyrant [Page 78] to suffer any man to lye there? The popes Tyrannie and. D. Boners ig­norance in his owne learning. Yf he can deliuer any / why doth he not delyuer hī ­self? Yf he can delyuer himself why did Sir Edmond Bonner the blody Bushop of Londō shew all the wit he had / in com­manding Dirige andmasse to be song for the Popes soule in the diocese of Lōdon? He did it belik because he thinketh the Pope may erre / cōtrary to the doctrine of the Papistes. The Papists [...]a [...]e apon them the defense of sa­ing the common praies in a tong not vnderstan­did of the peple contrarie to gods word. Moreouer / haue not the Papists taken apon them the defense of this opinion that all things red in the churche ought to be in the Latin tonge? that is to say / in a tong not vnderstandid of the peple / directly agaīst Gods word?

Read the XIIII. Chapter of the first epistle of Saint Paule to the Corinthiās and there shall ye see / how māifestly this doctrine is against God. [...]. Cor. 14. Saint Paule 1 there sayeth / yf I shall cumme tu you / ād speak in a tonge that you vnderstād not what shall it profet yow? Doe not the popishe heretiques say / Reasone to proue that prayer in the church ought to be in the vulgar tōge cleane contrary to him / that both they can and doe proffit speaking in a language not vnderstan­did?

2 S Paul saith / Si orē lingua spiritus meus orat, [Page 79] mens mea fructu uacat: Yf I pray in a tōg not vnderstandid) my spirit prayeth but [...] mind or vnderstanding hath no profit [...]erby: doe not they say the clean contra­ [...] that my soule hath profet ther by? S. 3 [...]aul wold haue him that standeth by vn­ [...]erstand what is spoken / that he might [...]aye Amen to thy thanks geuinge: Doe [...]ot the Papists kepe the stander by from [...]he vnderstanding of that is sayd / so that [...]e can not say Amen to thy thanks geuin­ [...]e / with vnderstandinge / as the Apostle [...]eaneth? Words spokē & not vnderstan [...]yd 4 / be lyke to a talk in the wynde to no [...]urpose sayth Saint Paule: Saint Paule [...] doctrine and the Papists▪ be contrary. that is not so [...]ay the Papists. Saint Paule woulde ra [...]her haue fyue words spoken in the chur [...]he wherby the peple may haue some pro [...]et / thē ten thousand in a tong not vnder [...]tandid 5 / doe not the Papists hold quyte cō [...]rary / that it is better to haue ten thou [...]and words spoken in the churche / not vn [...]erstandid of the peple then fyue spoken [...]hiche may be vnderstandid? S. Pau­ [...]e 6 saieth he that speaketh ( lingua) meanin­ [...]e in a tonge not vnderstandid / let him [...]old his peace / onlesthere be summe in­ [...]erpretor / to shew what is ment.

[Page 80]And do not the Papists bable ther [...] mattēs masse & Euensong in Latin / wi [...]thout an interpretor / so that the peple b [...]ing ignorant in the tong / can take no pr [...]fet therby? Thus ye see that for the mos [...] parte (whatsoeuer Gods word sayeth [...] this sect of the Papists maintaine wit [...] toth and nayle the cleane contrary. And thinke you this last / is of simple ignor­aunce / and so but an error in them? na [...] some of themselues haue cōfessed the tr [...]uth with Saint Paule in open pulpit ād otherwise / The Papistes take vpon them to defende / that the laye people ought not to re­ceaue the sacra­mēte of the blud of Christe. that it wer better to haue pra [...]ers in an vnderstandid language / which now yet doe (as al the world may see) le­aue god & serue the tyme / but to procede▪

Lykewise haue they chosen an opiniō to defend that the lay peple ought not to drink of the Sacrament of the blud of our lord Iesus Christ / Math. xxvj. D. Westons shamlesse talke reasoning with Master Late­mer at Oxford / that women ought not to re­ceaue the com­muniō / making it as it were doubtfull. contrary to the ex [...]presse wod of God / and against the uery institution of Christe when he both mini [...]strid the cupp himself / and also said, Bibite ex hoc omnes: drynk ye all of this. But as for womē the Papists be lyke thing they haue no soules. For who hath not herd that westō was not ashamed in open di [...]sputatiō against the bliszid martyr of god master Latimer in Oxford / to maintayn [Page 81] as a treuth / that women ought not to receaue the communion? making it as it were doubtfull and not playn by Gods word. And that for declaration and profe of the same heretical opinion / am­ongst other questions / he was not asha­med / to demande of the sayd holy martyr where he foūd ī the scriptures that womē ought to receaue the Sacrament? Vnto whome Master latymer answerd: Yes & it please your mastership I shall fynde it in the scriptures that women ought to receaue the Sacrament: Nay quod westō that can ye not fynde in the scriptures. yes quod Latimer here I haue it (I trow) in Saint Paule. 1. Corin. 11. Probet seipsum homo & sic de pane illo edat, & de poculo bibat, &c.

Let man proue himself and so eat of that bread and dryncke of that cupp / I pray yow Master Doctor Cu [...]us generis ho­mo? Doth not this word ( homo) signifie both kyndes as well man as woman? Here was master doctour blank / and fo­und by Gods word a playne falsi [...]ier of his word and that fighting with the tre­uth he wounded himself / Note the ignorance of the pa­pists in the Greek tonge but lest master Doctor should haue this shamefull foyle at this holy mans hands (weston being there the chefe commiszioner) the benche [Page 82] of the Doctors consulttid for an answer wherby to delyuer Westō out of the bry­ars. And in conclusion they made this resolution to the auditory / that the greek worde was [...] which greek worde signifieth man only / in the masculine gender.

A meet answer forsoth / for such as seke to mayntayne there heresy / they care not how / for in deed the greek word is not [...] / as they falsly alledged / but [...] / which signifieth both man and woman accordīg to mastir Latymers lerned say­inge. An impudent lye of [...] Papi­stes declaringe ther gros ignoraun [...]e in the middest of the vniuersitie of Oxford. But that notwithstandīge / Westō as Ignorāt as the best / and glad to auo­id his own shame sumwayes / conseritid to ther lye / and made a Catholique cōclusion of it / that it was not so in the greek which is an impudent lye. Of a like sort Weston declarid with no lesse boldnes his ignorāce at Paules crosse in the her­ing of the whole audience sayinge that the greek word [...] signifieth hominum deuoratores / D. Westō pu­blissed his oun ignoraunce im­pudently at Paules crosse. that is deuourers of men / when in deed it is the name of those heretiques / who held the opinion / that God the father had the forme & shape of a mā / & suche mēbers & partes of a body as be ascrybid to hī ī the scripture. Wher of read Theophilus Alexandrinus. Se what [Page 83] shiftes these heretiques haue to mayntayne ther abhominable heresies & opiniōs dyrectly against Gods worde & the cōti­nuall vsage of the Catholique Churche of God from the beginīge. Theophilus Alexandrinus and Philaster. What boldnes haue they amongst the ignorant / when [...]n the middest of an vniuersitie / amongst a great nōber of lerned men / they be not [...]shāed to belye the very text of the scrip­ [...]ures / for the mayntenaunce of there he­ [...]esies / and to condempne him for heresie who most learnedly defendid himself with [...]he treuth of Gods word / by this and sun [...]ry plaees / to there perpetuall shame to [...] registrid in Cronicle for euer / Of thi [...]u ocaci­on of Saincts. and to Gods euerlasting glory. They haue [...]ikewise chosen an opinion of Innocatiō [...]nd praying to dead Saints dyrectly con [...]rary to the scripture / which saith / Rom. 10. quomo­ [...]o inuocabūt eū in quē nō crediderūt. How shal [...]hey call apon him in whom they beleuid [...]ot? But we beleue not in the Saynts [...]herfore it is manifest that we may not [...]nuocate nor call apō them. Luk. 4. And also our Sauiour saieth Lu. 4. Dominum Deum tuum [...]dorabis, & illum solunt coles. A peece of S. Paule restorid out of Epiph. i. Thow shalt ad [...]re the lord thy god / and worship him [...] Solum) only. And Epiphanius con­ [...]a Antidicomarianitas Heresie. 78. [Page 84] sayth S. Paule prophecied that in the latter dayes ther should certayn Hereti­ques come / who should geue godly hon­or to them that be dead. And he citeth the place. 1. Timoth. 4.

Where it appeareth that Epiphaniu [...] had more in his copy of the new Testa­ment in that place / then we now haue / & it may be that some Papiste did scrape i [...] out of the booke because it made agains [...] your doctrine / these be the words of Epi­pha. whiche he ascrybeth to S. Paule▪ [...] (that is) they shall worship de­ad mē sayth he / (meaning of Saint Pa [...]le) as some in Israel did. But with thi [...] they can not be contentid / onles they ma [...] haue also the ymages of wood / stone / and mettall that be made to represent thoseh [...]ly men. Of Idolatry committid befo­re Images. What is worshipping / if cap­pīge / knelinge / kissinge / clothinge / stre­wing / garlanting / payntinge / gyldinge candelling / sensing / and suche lyke be no [...] worshippinge? cā we do eny more in [...] outward gesture to God himself? Th [...] heresies and errors / whiche besyds the [...] they haue taken apon them to defend [...] infinite / as of Orniginall syn̄ / of fre wil [...] That there popishe churche can not [...] [Page 85] That generall counsels may make new doctrines besyds Gods word / necessary for saluation. Heresies defen­ded by the pa­pistes. Of Traditions / of Sa­tisfactions / of neceszitie to number our sinnes to a popish ignorāt priest / of Par­dons / of the wicked masse / of Transubstā ­tiation / etc. And amongst all other / be­cause they wold seem holly / and to be estemed amongst such as know not / what a holy and cleane state mariadge is / pretē ­ding the gift of chastitie / though they be the most shameles lechors lyuing: they haue taken apon them the impudent de­fense / of the rottē and stinking uirginitie of suche priests as abstayne from mari­adge / though they haue not the gift of virginn Chastitie / but lyue Somme in continuall buggery & Sodomiticall syn̄ / S. Bernard in a sermon ad clerum in concilio Rhemensi and Anthoninus in another sermon ther like wise. Rom. 1. as Saint Bernard complayneth of the clergy in his dayes / In commēdacion of whiche abhominacion (punished at So­dom with fyer and brymston from heauē in the old Testement / and cryed out apon by Saint Paule in the new Testament) the Archebushop of Beneuentum / ād the Dean of the chamber Apostolique / Thinkest thow reader these pa­pists shall be iu­stified by there worcks. who hath the power of a Legat [...] latere in the Dominiō of the Venetians euen in these dayes hath wrytten a most shamefull bo­ke [Page 86] / folowinge herein the heretiques that were called Caiani / who worshipped the Sodomittes / as Saint Austin witnesseth in his boke De haeresibus. Some in kepin­ge whores whiche they fynde out yerely by the meanes of lent confession. Some in continuall longinge / burninge and vnlawfull lusting / for the satisfieng of there deuelishe desier / whiche is playn whoredom by Christs definition Mat­thei. cap. 5. Math. 5.

And māy reasons they bringe in wherby to proue that the vse of matrimonie is an [...]ncleane thinge / saing that the mari­ed man is made so vncleane bythe mea­nes of his wyfe that he can not pray / D. 31. Ante▪ Triennium. nor receaue the Sacraments / onles they forsake the one the other / for a tyme.

What is this els but a plain remouinge and putting away of all maried men and women from the communion out of the Churche of God. By the testimony of old doct­ors / The Pa­pists agree with most of the old heretiques in iudging mariadge to be an vn­clean thinge. In this point be­fore rehersed the Papists agree with all the most old ād aunceant heretiques that blew this first poyson in to the churche of God. As yf thow wilt read S. Austen de haeresi., Irenaeus contra Valenti. Clemens, Alexan. [...] Theodoret. [...] [Page 87] Epiphanius Eusebius, thow shalt well perecane that these heretiques which I will now reherse were of the self same opini­on. Basilides Carpocrates and Saturninus, Old heretiques 137 after Christ / The Marcionistes, The Tatianistes, and all the sect which of abstinence callid them selues Encratitae 160 and 180. yeres af­ter Christ. The Manichaeis 280. yeres af­ter Christ / The Aerians and Priscillianistes, The Papists consent to the old Heretiques that wold not receaue the communiō with maried folk because they thought thē vnclean as the Papists iudge maried Priests only because they be maried. in spayn. And the heretiques named / Hierachits, Apostolici, Valesij, Adamiani, Abellio­nij, Ampotactitae, Eutichiani, Heracleonitae & a nō ber more / all agree with the Papists in this point (that the vse of matrimony is vncleanes) and therfor wold they not re­ceaue the communion with such as were maried. But all this holy pretense / Was but an outward shew / wherwith to blynde the eyes of the peple / as S. Austen speaketh of the Manicheis saying.

Nec ferre possum Manichaeorum iactantiam, Retract lib. 1. cap. 7. de falsa, & fallaci Continentia, uel Abstinentia, quase ad imperitos decipiendos, ueris Christianis, quibus comparandi non sunt, insuper praeferunt.

I can not abyde / (sayth Saint Au­sten) the bragging and boasting of these Heretiques the Manicheis, for there false and deceytfull Continency / and Ab­stinence [Page 88] from mariadge / wherwith they auaunce themselues aboue godly Christian men with whom they are not to becō ­parid. Haue not our popishe heretiques put vpon them this glittering shew and whorishe face / of the Manicheicall & such like hereticall chastitie? Who seeth not that they be altogether counterfetters / dissemblers / hypocrites / maskers / lyers / raylers / whoremōgers / sodomites / swearers / blasphemers / bludsuppers / Idola­ters / Tyrāts / Extorsiōers? who seeth not that they be proud vnder the color of hu­militie? Enuiose vnd the face of pacience / slougthfull / pretending study? Maliciose in fayninge frendship / couetous / cōterfet­tinge liberalitie? Very Epicures and tenduble gluttōs vnder the shadow of hous­keping? and stinking bawdy lechors / vn­der the cloke of wi [...]eles lyfe / or (as they name it) of maydenhead / and virginitie? No trenth / honestie nor godlines / but vnder ther long gounes / shauen crounes / & syde typets / dōghils of all kynde of other durty vyces ioyned with there lecherose lyfe and hereticall opinions / Martins own words in the lxxxviij. leaf of his book. as Martin himself witnesseth that they commonly goe together. And as for second mari­adges Martynn vtt [...]erly condempneth [Page 89] for vnhonest / saying amongst other arguments in the 88. leafe of his book in this wyse. ‘Yea and this one thing I will further say / that in lay men to / it was thought more lawfull then honest etc.’

And in this poynt Martin agreeth with the old heretiques Mōtanus, Martin agre­eth with those heretiques that hold that second mariadges we­re vncleare. Maximil­la, Priscilla, Cataphryges, and Cathari (170 yeres after Christ) with Proculus and dyuerse o­ther who were infectid with the same he­resy. Thus mayst thow see good rea­der / that not only the very definitiō of an heretique hath disclosid the papists to be heretiques / but also the defense of the self same opinions wherof the old heretiques were comdempned / doth confirm my dis­course apō the definition to be soūd good and trew. Now if it shall please Mar­tyn to let lechory be also annexid to the papists that she may kepe heresie company he may / or els let him desier that it may be scraped out of his book lest the reader fyndīg him faultie in the one / shall iudge him giltie in the other. This profe may seem sufficient to all such as will with re­ason be satisfied / but I am not ignorant of the wrangling and Sophisticall wit­tes of the Papists / wherfor although my sayd former profe by definition of an he­retique [Page 90] / hath made euident demonstrati­on that all papists be heretiques / yet that the same may somwhat more largelie ap [...]pere / I haue thought good to ioyn the o­pinions of the Papists and of the m [...]st aunceant deuelishe and horrible hereti­ques together / That the doctri [...]e of the Pa­pists is made of old heresies. wherby the reader shall well perceaue / that there is no opinion allmost so wicked amōgst the other sects of heretiques already for heretiques co [...]dempned / but for the most part the Pa­pists haue thesame / or els in stead thero [...] another very like vnto it / which is as e­uell or worse. The ordinary glose apon the xvij. of Luk. And because Martī in his second leaf chargeth vs with the life of Si­mon Magus the first & arch heretique tha [...] euer was after Christs tyme (and the or­dinary glose apō the 17 of luk. saieth that Antichrist shall be the last) I will first cō pare his life and doings with the pope the same antichrist the head of the popish sect and al that folow the popish heresie. Euseb. Eccl. hist lib. 2. ca. 1. & 13. Aug. de haeresi­bus. Theodore­tus de Haereticis sab. li. 1. Epiph. Act. 8. This S. magus was the first notable here­tique that euer was / & a uery welsprin­ge of al other heresies / and lyued in the Apostels tyme as appereth act. 8. whose heresie folowed Menander, Cerinthus & Ebi [...] ād dyuerse other. This heretique taught the peple that he was the great power o [...] [Page 91] God / and he so seduced the peple of Ro­me that they raisid vp a piller in his ho­nor (as I haue said before) with this tyt­ell Simoni Deo sancto To Simon the holy God. The heresies of Simon Ma­gus comparid with the heresi­es of the papists Secondarely he blynded the pe­ple with coniuring / witchcraft and false miracles. Loke in the margent of the Preface to the Clementines / and in the decretals de Electione et electi pote­state C. funda­menta. Thirdly he wold bye and sell the gyftes of the holy gost for mony.

Now compare him with the pope & you Papists. Who is he that hath made him self a God as Simon Magus did? is it not the pope? do not his lawyers hold that he is no puer man / and that he is a God in earth? Who is it that hath blīdid the world this thousand yere / with witchecraft / with wonders and false miracles? is it not the pope and you Papists? who is it that hath bought and sold / and daylie do make marchandise of the gyftes of the hoty gost / of the Sacramēts / & other thing­es that ye call holy / Aug. de haresi­bus. Ireneus lib. iij. is it not the pope and you Papists? Simō magus being a preacher wold rather kepe a whore (whō some call Selene some Helena) thē marry as both S. Hierom ad Ctesiphontem & Theodoret do wit­nes. S. Hierom ad Ctesiphoniem. And do not the Papists saye it is better for a preest to kepe 20 whores thē one wyfe? Pighius and Campegius, say so. And doth not Martī say in the beginning of his x. Chapter / that priests mari adges be worse thē adultery? which [Page 92] opinion most wicked and detestable / The herisies of Basilides compared with the herisies of the papistes lib. 1 cap. 23. he lyk a vyle man (if he be worthie the name of a man) fathereth falsely vpon S. Austen in the 97 leaf of his book. Basilides the heretique and his disciples 127 yere after Christ were condempnid amongst o­ther heresies for vsing of ymages / coni­urings / and inuocations and such like [...] (as Irene termeth them) things voyd of good purpose: And I pray you what is the English of exorciso te whē the priest maketh holy water is it not I con­iure the / saieth not the popish priest / that he coniureth the deuell out of the water? Papists [...]e con­iurers. etc. Yea ād out of bels that com to be cri­stened? Could Simon magus or Basilides or any other coniurer that euer was / vse any playner words in coniuring thē you Papists do vse? As many as haue seen the hollowing of a church can call to remem­braunce what pastime the folish Suffragans make with the deuell. Suffragans woulde be con­iurers but one deuell can not caste out ano­ther. And lest there should lack any gestures that be­long to coniuring / they bow / they blow they spit / they nod / the gasp / they sighe / they douck / they knele / they blysse / they curse and in deed they do the best they cā to coniure / when the simple peple that standeth by and vnderstandeth neuer a word / thinketh that these cōiuring mas­kinge [Page 93] marchants be most holily and ver­tously occupied. Irenaeus 180. yere a [...]ter Christ Li. 1. cap. 24. Irenaeus also witnesseth that both Bassilides, Carpocrates, and Gnostici whiche were about 130 yere after Christ set furth ymages of Christ to be worshipped. His words be these. Etiam imagines quasdam pictas, quasdam autem & de reliqua materia fabricatas habent, dicentes formam Christi factam à Pilato illo in tempore cum fuit Iesus cum ho­minibus, & has coronant & proponunt eas, &c. Carpocrates, Olde here­tiques induced christen men first to worship ymages. and his fellowes (saieth Irenae­us) haue Images / some in paynting / and some wrought out of other materiall substance / alledging that the forme or yma­ge of Christ was counterfettid by Pilat at that tyme when Iesus was here am­ongst men. And they did put crounes v­pon those ymages and did set them furth with other ymages of philosophers be­fore the people. Yf Irenaeus and the fore fa­thers iudged Carpocratem and his fellou­wes heretiques for so vsing the ymages of Christ / shall we be affraied (being of the mynde that Irenaeus was) to call the papists heretiques for so vsing the ymages not only of Christ / Proces [...]ions and carieng the same about apon the crosse in processions: but also the ymages of the blessed virgyn mary / (whiche thing Epiphanius cryeth out v­pon) [Page 94] and of Saint Ihon / and of Saint Peter and Saint Paule and of a nom­ber other of there creatid Saints as of Dunstan / Thomas Becket / Vrsula? etc? of whome it is doutid wheather some of them be Saints or not with God / or damned spirites with the deuell in hell. And in that the popishe preachers / wryters & shameles champions be so full of there allegories / of fables / which they call narrations / and of fayned inuentions: And al­so in that they say that Christs body is so thyn and of so heauenly / The herisies of Valentinus Secundus Ptolomeus / Cerdo / Mar­cion / Apelles / agree with the herisies of the papists. and supernatu­ral substance / that it is in an infinit nomber of places at one tyme / and burn men that hold the contrary: who can denie but that they folow the dreames / fantasies & heresies of the heretiques Valentinus, Secundus, Ptolomaeus, Cerdo, Marcion, Apelles ād such lyke? Eusebius. lib. 3 cap. 27 Hebion & his folowers held opi­on (as Eusebius recordeth) that the obseruation of the law of Moses (as the Pa­pists say of there ceremonies) was necessary quasi non sit salus persolam in Christum fi­dem, The herisies of the papistes agree with the herisies of He­bion and his fo­lowers. & uitae cōuersationem fidei corespondentem, As thoughe (sayth he) Saluatiō cōmeth not by fayth only in Christ / and the cōuersation of lyfe agreeable to the fayth. So weak was there vnderstanding thaythey [Page 95] could not perceaue the abrogation of the [...]aw and traditions / which (as S. Paule [...]aieth) stode in decrees and commande­ments of men. Ephe. [...] Col. 2. Gal. And yet doth Saint Pau­ [...]e crye out with open mouth / that they be abrogatid bloted out / vtterly takē away and nayled apon the crosse with Christ.

And he forbiddeth that any man sho­uld iudge vs in meat / or in a pece of a ho [...]y daye. Be not the new Hebionites the popish heretiques taken with the self same blyndnes? what other things I pray you [...]oth the ordinances of the Papists con­ [...]eyn then a certein new Iudaisme? and so much the more wicked / because they haue no commaundement by God as the Iewes ceremonies had for a tyme. But Saint Paule taunteth them sharply for there fond talk and doings. These te­ [...]rmes (touche not / tast not / handell not) [...]e of none effect (sayth Saint Paule) because they perish by the abuse / and be the [...]ery commandiments and doctrines of men. Yet (sayth Saint Paule) they seem [...]o haue some shew of wisdom / by reason of an outward apperinge of a humble­ [...]es / and of the hurting of the body whi [...]he can employ no suspicion of vntreuth / [...]f Martins saying were trew.

[Page 96]But in deed they be very madnes an [...] vayn superstitions / as by Saint Paule [...] own words it is euident. Col. 2. Eph. 2. Col. 2. and Eph [...] 2. how beit these thīgs be vsid of the po­pish sect as diligently / and as superstiti­ously as euer they were of the Iewes / th [...] Hebionites / or any other sortes of hereti­ques as they know & fele which be vnder there quorum / and obey not to them /

The Iewes and the Pa­pists comparid together.And because the whole bodie of papis [...]rie is not vnlike to a new Iudaisme (a [...] I haue sayd) aswell for the very Aronical [...] apparell vsid by ther popishe priests [...] Masse / ād for sondry other Iudaicall ry­tes and ceremonies / and there opinion o [...] meretinge and deseruing saluation / The Iewes and the papists vse all one kinde of Sophistrie. fo [...] and by keping of there law: it is mani­fest that the Papists in these points ioy­ne with the Iewes in doctrine. And with the same Sophistrie wherwith the Iewes wold seem to defend them selues when they be charged for not obseruing all that is wryttē in the law according­ly as they cōfesse they be boūd: With the self same Sophistri wold the Papists se­em to defend themselues / whan it is obi [...]ctid that in pryuat masses there is no cō ­munion / because there is but one whic [...] receaueth: for the Iew sayeth it is en [...]ough [Page 97] for them / if all the law be amongst thē all obserued / and not needfull that euery one should obserue it all. For the hou­se of God (saieth he) is one / and if in all that house or cōgregation of thers / D. Westons vayn Sophist­ry for the defen­se of priuat masses befor the Queen. it be obserued / it is enoughe (sayeth the Iew) And euē so wold Watson seem to answer the former obiection of priuat Masses saying: ‘There is one house of the churche / and the priest that saieth masse alon doth communicat with all them that celebrat in other churches / or in other real­mes / though they be not at his elbow’And so he full clerky cōcludeth with this Iudaical Sophistry: Read thei de­crees iij. et iiij. of Sother bus­hop of Rome who lyuid al­most 1400. ye­re agon. and of Ca [...]yxtus also shortly after him. that it is not need­full for a communion to haue any moe receauers then the only preest present. Ei­ther of ignorāce not knowīg / or of malice purposly hiding the canons of the old coū sels and sayings of old wryters which reache the manifest con̄trary. And ye may well see the fashion of there answers to be all one▪ Yt is not needfull for one mā to obserue all the law / The Iew. but if amōgst all the Iewes the law be obserued / it is enough (sayth the Iew.) ‘Yt is not needfull for a priest to haue any at his elbow to com­municat with him / Watson but if in all the church of God there be any other that celebrat / [Page 98] then doth he not communicat alone’(sa [...]ith Watson) Lo how detestable & blasph [...]mose lyes / be vouched by the Iewes / and the Papists by one kynde of Sophistry▪ for like as euery man both Iew and ge [...]tile / is chargid with the obseruation o [...] the whole law / Deut. 27. Gal. 3. The worde (Communion) requireth that the lords supper should be rece­auid of a company present. by the playne words of the Deuteronomie / Maledictus omnis &c. cur­sed be euery one that abydeth not in al [...] things that be wrytten in the law / to do [...] them: So ought euery communion to be ministred by the playn etymologie ād sig [...]nification of the word (communion) to [...] company assembled for that purpose / ād not to any one alon / as the masmongers abuse it. I haue before declarid how the Papists agree with the most old here [...]tiques / in that they iudged the vse of ma­trimony to be an vnclean thinge / as the Papists do when they alledg S. Hierom that thei can not do the office of a Christiā mā and a maried man at once. Hiero [...]ymus contra [...]ouinia­num lib. 1. And whē they wryth / and belye Saint Paule say­ing that he commandid man to departe from his wyfe at the tyme of prayer etc. Fayned holi­nes of Hereti­ques. This opiniō aswell of the old heretiques / as of the Papists / hath none other groūd but that thei wold by that meanes / bring themselues in credit amongst the peple / [Page 99] with an outward apparence of holynes / of cōtinency / and of uerteuose lyfe. Aug. li. 3. cap. 6. cōfessionum. Which thinge appereth in Saint Austen in his third booke of confessions: where he confesseth that he himself was snarid / intan­gelid / and deceauid / with the opinion / e­stimatiō / and outward apparence of holi­nes of the Manicheis. Aug. retract. lib. 1. cap. 7. And it is playn in his retractations / that S▪ Austen had muche more adoe with the ouerthrowing of there estimatiō of godly lyfe (which grew first by there superstitious vsages) then with the ouerthrowing of there opinions And thefore in that place he calleth there continency a deceytfull continency / The deceytfull continency of the Manicheis lyf vnto the cō ­tinency of the Papists. and there abstinency a deceytfull abstinence / wherby they deceauid not only the rude & and vnlerned / but had almost (as I haue sayd) ouerthrowē Saint Austen himself / The old Here­tiques deceuid the peple with abstinence from mariadge / flesh / and wine. as he confesseth of himself▪ And this esti­mation of theres increased not only by there abstinence from mariadge / but also with abstinence from flesh and wyne / as both S. Austen and Irenaeus and Clemens Alex. and Theodoretus etc. Beare witnes in the places before rehersed. Compare now the deuelish generatiō of the popish sect / vnto those old heretiques / & ye shall fīde a fastīg frō flesh amōgst the Carthusiās. [Page 100] as / & other fryers / monks & nonnes etc. But what kynde of fasting I pray you? Aug. li. 2. ca. 13 de moribus Manichaeorū. forsoth suche a kynde of fasting as is de­scrybed of Saint Austen where he intreateth of the behauior of the Manichae [...]s. Yt is wrytten (saith he) of Cariline Quod frigus, sitim, famē ferre poterat, haec erant illi spur co scrilego (que) cum nostris Apostolis communia. The heresies and life of the Manacheis a­gre with the he­resies and life of the papistes. Ca [...]ilene being a fylthy theefe / culd a byde could / hōger & thurst. These things culd / he doe aswell as our Apostles (saith S. Austen meaning the preachers of the Manichaeis) And may not the same be sayd of our popish heretiques / and new Mani­chaeis? And shortly after Saint Austē largely declareth by cōparison the scrupulose abstinēce of the Manichaeis from flesh with the sober dyet of the trew Christian man. And now I most hartelie desier the gē ­ell read to cōsider how S. Austē painteth out / & most manifestly descrybeth the fast of the Manicheis to be such a fast / as is now a dayes / the fast of our Papists (that is to say) gluttony / & not a meās to tame the flesh as they do pretēd. Saincte Au­stens wordes. Aug. de mori­bus Ecclesiae cath. et Mani. lib. 2. cap. 3 And that the sober dyet of the Christiā man catīg spa­rely of flesh is the right kynde of fastīg. Thus S. Austen reasoneth. Yf there be a mā (as it is possible (so spare of dyet & profitable [Page 101] withall / that he will eat but twyse in one day / ruling & tempering with that abstinence / the appetyte of his throte ād belly: And be it also (sayth he) that there be sett at supper before this man a few herbes / and a litle baken / soddē with the same herbes / so much in quātitie as may suffice to put away his hunger and that the same man quenche his thurst with thre or four draughts of puer wyne / A comparison of the popish fast and of the Christian fast out of Saincte Austen. that is vnmingled with water / and that this be his dayly dyet. And agayn on the ot­her syde. Yf there be one that tasteth no flesh nor drynketh no wyne / but strange kindes of dishes / made of seeds / and fru­tes / with habundance of peper cast apon it / wherof he eateth plentifully at .ix. of the clok in the morning And againe at night at supper. And also that the same man drink of the water / wherwith the husks of grapes be washed after the preszing / and of sider and suche other liquors / which though they be no wyne / yet they serue in stead of wyne / yea and passe it al­so in swetnes. And be it that this man drink not only so much as he thursteth / but so much as him lusteth: And that he hath a dayly prouision for this dyet / and hath plēty of these delicates / wherwith to [Page 102] serue not only his necessitie / but also his lust: Wheather of these twayn / iudge you as touchīg meat & drink / to lyue in more abstinence? I think (sayth Saint Austē) ye be not so blynde but that yow will pre­fer the man which lyueth with the litel baken and wyne: Note vow Papists your superstitiosnes in ab­stinence from fleshe to the other glutton: for the trueth it self dryueth you to this ans­wer. But yow heretiques be of the con­trary opinion (saieth he) for by your opi­nion / if this second man shuld supp with the first but one night / ād should but touche his lippes / and smell of his bakē tho­ugh it were resty / Aug. Epistel. lxxiij. The Manicheis far bad there Pri­est mariadge as the Papists do. ye wold strayt way condempne him to hell fyer / as a breaker of your seale (that is) of your religiō. Thus far out of S, Austen / which saying he further also foloweth to the same effect. And likewise in the opinion of the mariadge / of priests / the Manichaeis and the Papists haue like agreement / for they suffrid so many of thē as were callid ( auditores) to eat flesh / and to marry at there pleasure / and to till the ground / etc. as S. Austen wit­nesseth Epistola 72 ad Deuterium. The Maniche is and Papists agree ful [...] in certein points. But the­re Ministers whō they callid Electos they wold in no wyse suffer to marry / nor to til the groūd / etc. Here seest thow good reader the ful agreement of the heresy of the Manicheis and of the heresie of the Papists [Page 103] touching mariadge of prests▪ And that the doctrine of vs (whom Martin & such other heretiques call heretiques) a­greeth with the doctrine of the Catholi­que church by the iudgement of S. Austē & that the doctrine of the Papists in this poynt agreeth with the Heretiques the Manicheis. And forasmuch as both he and Irenaeus, Epiphanius, The furst that commaundid fasting by a law was an hereti­que Eusebi. lib. 5. cap. 18. Theodoretus and o­ther doe note the like opinion of abstinence from flesh in Tatian and his folowers who were callid [...]: And in Montano the heretique who was the first that euer made lawes for fastinge / And in the heretiques named Aeriani Bassilidiani Priscil [...]anistae and Saturninus / and diuerse other Arch heretiques / whiche were also enemies to mariadge: Why may not I be as bold to note this for an heresie in the Pa­pistes / as these and other old / holy / aunce [...]ant / lerned and approued fathers & Doctors of the church of God / were neither afraied nor ashamed to note these old / As the Manicheis requirid there b [...]t named Epis [...] ▪ funda­menti to be cre­detid. Sodothe Papists ther dec [...]e [...]als / etc. and many of thē great learned men / as blas­phemose heretiques for the same opiniō? Manichaeus also brought in a new doctrine which was cōteyned in his epistle named Epistola fundamenti, wherūto he requirid lyk credit to be geuen / as to the gospel & that his doctrine he [Page 104] did beat in to the heads of the peple with all dyligence. Haue not the popes of ly­ke sort set out there decrees decretals Sext Clementines, and Extra Vagants, the lawes & doctrines wherof / D. xix. Si Rom [...]norum. etc. sic omnes etc. [...]uimuero etc. cap. nulli they requier to be obseruid as the gospell? Tanquam ipsius diuina Petri uoce firmata as though they had been stablished by Peters own holy mouth? com­mandinge and forcing the peple of God to receaue ād folow the blasphemose ru­les and ordinances therin conteyned? L [...]cet uix ferendum ab illa sede imponatur .i. thou­ghe it be almost intolerable that which is commaundid by that seat of Rome? D. 29. cap. In memoriam. I report me to any trew Christian man of knowledg / wheather this be not (to syt in gods temple / ād to auaunt himself as God) as the Apostle noteth the man of synne and Antichrist? This boldnes is maruelose / considering that there is al­most no leaf / The Devels store house. in the old / and new Testa­ment whiche by one meanes or other / is not in those wicked books / wrythed and defyled. So that they may well be callid the deuils store house / wherī his champions may from tyme to tyme haue tooles wherwith to defend the Pope there God against Christ & his Apostels. The heresies of the Papists agree with the he­resies of the Mo [...]tanistes. The agre [...]ment also of the Papists with the old he [...]retique [Page 105] Montanus and his disciples she­weth it self to plaine. For Montanus am­ongst other his heresyes fayned himself to be the holy gost / which fond opinion Manes also afterward spred abrode of himself / and dyuerse other / By meanes wherof he chalendgid the interpretation of the scriptures / in such wyse / that his exposicion and sence / should be receauid and none other / Mōtanus the heretique wold not be contro [...] lid. for it was as certein as though it had been spoken by the mouth of God / craftyly conueying to himself the iudgement ouer all other / and excluding all mēs controlement. Of lyke sort / hath the Pope perswadid the world / himself to be so plētifully indewid with Gods spiri­te that he cā not erre. 9. q. 3. patet ex Nicolao Papa &c. cuncta. 9 q. 5. Nemo & in glosa. Ne (que) cuiquā de eius liceat iudicare iudicio. And that it is not lawfull for any mā to iudge of his iudgemēt. No neither the Emperour / ne (que) omnis clerus, ne (que) rex, neque populus neither all the clargy / neither the kinge nor the peple / neither the generall counsell / nor all the world may controle him. d. 40. si Papa. Etiamsi innumerabiles populos cateruatim secum ducit Primo mancipio Gehennae cum ipso plagis multis in aeternum uapulaturus, Huius culpas ist hic redarguere praesumit mortali­um nullus, quia cunctos ipse iudicaturus à nemine est iudicandus. Thoughe he cary with him [Page 106] to the deuell sowles innumerable / The pope will Suffer no [...]an to controll him. there to be punished eternally No man lyuing may fynde falt with his doings / for he must iudge all men / and that himself o­ught to be iudged of no mā. And to make all suer / 25. q. Violato. ex damaso. Pope damasius did plainly define / that they sinned in blashemy against the holy gost which violatid or brake the po­ps lawes. A sore saying if it had been spoken of one that was no Pope. But yet much sorer / if of one that could not lye / as the Papists say the pope can not. The Montanistes, Non̄es be mo [...]ck priestes. had Prophetissas, The Papists haue their Non̄es / whom they make mock priests being women. d. [...]. quamuīs. The Montanistes named there litle streat (callid Pepuza) Hierusalem: The Papists haue made Rome a new Hierusalem sayng it hath neque maculam ne (que) rugam neither spot nor wryn kell: The Papists themselues can not deny / if they haue any honestie / or shame left / that these doings of the Pope agree full and whole with the heretiques called Montanists, Ca­taphrigians, Adamians, Quintilians, Helchisitae, Theodotians, N [...]uatian [...] the Heretiques. Nouatians, Alogians, and suche lyke. S. Hierom wryteth that the No­uatians, fayned continuall repentaunce that by that meanes they might be ad­mitted to haue the gouernance of the [Page 107] peple in churches / lest there opinion con­ [...]rary to repentance beīng espied / they should not haue been sufferid. And likewise [...]hey had in their mouthes / the name of goods works / and of the primatiue chur­che / but when they did amisse / they wold not be correctid. Now I report me to the [...]ndifferent reader / wheather experience [...]oth not dayly teach vs / that the Papists vse the selfsame practises. They pretend that they fauor the doctrine of repentan­ [...]e / makīg also a gorgeouse name in shew (as they think) calling it penaunce / The m [...]k pen [...] ­ce of the papist­es declarid by ther lif. but [...]ooke vpon there lyfe / and tell me who be more vnrepentante? they pretend the name of good works. Who lyue in more pri [...]e / falshod / blasphemy / gluttonie / lechery / Idolatrie / sweringe / lyeng / ād in all kyn [...]e of abhominatiōs? And as for the doct [...]ine and fashions of the primatiue church who seeth not that they haue vtterly tro­ [...]en it vnder foot? and haue deuisid a new doctrine wherby to serue there pompe / & vnsatiable couetousnes / The Christian mās weapon is prayer and te­ars the Papists weapons be tyranny and blod­shedinge. and worldly commodities? And as touching correction they be so farre from the admission of the right discipline / and obediēce to the word of God / that (as I haue said before of the Montanistes) they will be lords / ād without [...]ontroloment / not garding themselues [Page 108] and the sword of the spirite / The pops Gard. but with vi­olence / terror crueltie / banishement / pry­son / rope / fagot / fyer and warre. There was also another sect of heretiques / The heretiques named Apostolici and the Pa­pists agree. who named thēselues Apostolicos (that is to sai) Apostolik / euen as the heretique papists do chalenge wrongfully vnto thē the na­me of the sea Apostolik ād of Catholique. These heretiques wold alow none to be of there brotherod / The Papists do falsly [...] to themselues the name of Catholique. that had the vse of there wyues: wherin our popishe priestes ioyn with them aswell in deed throughly / as a part in name / for that they will suffer nōe to be priests after there order onles he vtterly renounce mariadge. Catholique And like as this sect of Apostolici, had nothing els of the Apostles / but the vsurped name / so haue our Papists not one iote of Catholi [...]ques / In breuiculo collationum cū Donatistis / in collatiōe iij. diei saving the only vsurped name. But ī that they wil be calid Catholiques / The Papists agree also with the heretiques / named Donatistes, for the Donatstes in any wyse wold be callid Catholiques / as S. Austen witnesseth. I maruayle why the Papists will not rather be callid Apostolici seyng all there hold / The Dōatists wold be callid Catholiques. is apon the Apostle Peter / as they pretend / and apon the sea Apostolicall? Yt may be that they fear lest the vse of the name so playnly / might / [Page 109] [...]ause the peple to perceaue Peters ene­ [...]y / ij. Thess. ij. sitting in Peters chayer bragging [...]imself to be God / But what auayleth it [...]he Papists to folow Peter in place whē [...]hey folow Iudas in lyfe▪ The Arrians also vsurpid the name Catholi­que. The Arrians al [...]o callid themselues only / Catholique / ād [...]here aduersaries / by the proper names [...]f those lerned men whiche by there gre­ [...]t knowledge in diuinitie / and cunning [...]id most to ther ouerthrow. So they cal­ [...]d some Athanasians, some Ioannitas, some [...]hrisostomians / and some Ambrosians: lyke [...]s the popishe heretiques at this day / cal [...]he trew professors of Gods word: So­ [...]e Lutherians, / Catholique is almost become the n [...]me of Christs enemi­es. some Zwinglians / some Oe [...]lampadians: but themselues only Catholi­ [...]ues / & Orthodox: So may yow see that Ca­ [...]holique is almost become the name of [...]hrists enemies / and (heretique) of his [...]rends. Moreouer this secte named Apo­ [...]olici, wold possesse nothing as proper / Apostolici Li [...]ewise amongst the Papists the monks / [...]yars / chanons / nonnes / etc. refusing the [...]ropertie of things / Aug. de [...]. The Papists agre with the heretiques named Pattalorinchi­te. declare playnly that [...]ese heretiques and they / haue both but [...] rule. Saint Austen also maketh [...]entiō of a sort of heretiques whō he cal [...]th Pattalorinchitas. Who were so studiose [...] keping sylence / that they stoppid there [Page 110] mouth and nose with there hands and there fingers / alledging the scriptures for there defense. Posui ori meo custodiam I haue put a custody to my mouth / meaning the custody to be there fingers. The­se the Carthusians do folow / & the mōks of the order of Saint Benet and the most of the cloysterers / when they kepe there cloyster / And the popishe priests be pre­scrybed to make a pause of sylēce in the­re Memento. And because these heretiques did talk / and vtter there mynds / not with there tonge (for feare they should brea­ke sylence) dactilorinchitae possunt euidentius appellari, they may better be called Dactilo­rinchitae saith S. Austē / Blaspheming Silence in Cloysters. But in the arte of talking with the fingers / the popish cloysteres / though they hold there tong as Dactilorinchitae did / they be so cūning / that they will swear / curse / chyde / & tell lōg proces with there fingers. Wherfore they so ioyn with these heretiques in keping sy­lence / and so passe them in talking that me thinketh men shall do them wrōge if they geue them not also the name of the­se heretiques / for the one wherby S Austen sayth they were named / and [...] blasphemers with there fin­gers) for the other. And also the old [Page] aunceant and rank heretiques Sabellius, Samosatenus, Photinus, Nestorius, & Eutiches, Sondry old heretiques which agree with the Papists in opinion. holde opinion of Christ / that he was not Gods sonne in deed / but in name only: And I pray you wherin differ the sect of the Papists frō this Heresy? The Papists grāt in word / with there Tong / and lyppes / that Christ is our sauior ād redemer. but in deed (that is to say in the effect) they annex to Christ / such a condicion / The Papists tread doun Christ / and set vp themselues. that by the meanes therof / Christ is excludid frō the only thanks For they hold that the forgeuenes of our sinne / ād Gods fauor is not bought with Christs blud only: but with gold and siluer / geuen for par­dons / and masses / with ceremonies / The new Christ or redimer of the Papists. and rytes / with fasting and honger / with in­uocating of Saints / and worshiping of ymages / with abstinence from mariad­ge / and goyng wolworth / with wicked vowes / and obseruing of such religions as they of there owne brayne / with out Gods word haue deuisid. All whiche trū [...]pery haue ther meryte apoynted by the pope / without whose authoritie they hold opiniō / that neither these nor Christ him­self can profet any man: And what is this ells / then in word to confesse Christ and to denye him in deed as Sabellius, [Page 112] and these other fornamed naughtipaks did? Nestorius the heretique. And somwhat to speake speacil­ly of Nestorius / the virgin priest / and bus­hop of Constantinople / about 424. yere after Christ: The deuell stirrid him vp (as the Aunceant Greek Doctor Theodore­tus wryeth in his 4. book Heret. fabu. [...]. Theodoret de Hereticis fab. lib. 4. (that is) to troub [...]le the simplenes of our faith / which i [...] vo [...]d of all craft / with subtill Sophismes. And what els doth the Pope / and all the cannon lawyers / and the schole Doctors and the rest of the sectaries of that here­sy / than darken and obscure with there vayn Sophistry / Nestorius cal­lid himself Or­thodox. the playn and simple sen­ce of the blessed word of God? He saith further of Nestorius that he couerid hīself [...], (that is) vnder the co­lor ād cloak of the name (Orthodox) And doth not D. Gardiner the like in his hotch potch book set out vnder the name of Marcus Antonius? D. Steph Gardyner was a f [...]ayd to put his name to M An­tonius because he can not iusti­fy the doctrine onles he him self be iudge. Where although he hyde his owne name throughout the bok vsurping the name of Orthodox / as Ne­storius did / yet may the reader easely perceaue / by his feare / to declare his name that he wold rather haue recantid twis [...] more / than to haue burned once / though [Page 113] he were suer that for religion no man was / nor should be put to death in king Edwards dayes onles he denied some express Article of our crede. But now blud­shedinge declareth of what spirit the Papists be / how they esteme and loue sacri­fice and death better then merci. Theodoret wrot against Nestorius. The sa­me Theodoret also sayd of Nestorius (besids the disclosing of his heresies) that he so­ught the fauor of the peple with crouch­ing in a blak coūtenāce / [...] (that is / hūting and desyring to be estemed a chast lyuer / by reason of the palenes of his countin­ance: And doe not the most parte / Nestorius couerid his hypocri­sy with supersti­ [...]iose apa [...]ell as the Papists doe. yea & chefely the most notid for holines / of your monks fryers and dissembling wyueles priests / etc. doe the like? will you know what manor of man Ne [...]torius the Heretique was? look apon a popishe monk or fryer / and ye see his lyuely ymage? Nay but you will say small faith is to be ge­uen to Theodoret [...]or D. Gardiner in his bok against my lord of Canterbery sayth he was suspectid to be a Nestorian / And D. Wat­son in the conuocation house in the hear­ing of fyue hundreth peple sayd that he [...]s a Nestorian To this ye see Theodoret answereth for himself / D. watson belyed Theod. inthe conuocati [...]n house openly. condemning them [Page 114] both / for slaunderose lyers / with his lar­ge and earnest wrytinge against Nestorius

But what remedy when the Papists / by euidēt trueth haue the flat ouerthrow / they must needs defend them selues with lyes / for these be so stubburn that it is lyk they wold rather deny God then rekant ōles the feare of death should examē thē / for then wold they not geue place to the weather cok in readines of tournīge. Aug. de heresi­bus. S. Austen also with other / maketh mention of a sect of Heretiques / which were cal­lid Heracleonitae / The compari­son of the Pa­pists with the heretiques named Heracleōite who vsid a superstition in the buriall of the dead / condempned in the church of God. And of them he saith: feru [...]tur autem suos mor [...]entes nouo modo quasi redime [...]re, id est per oleum, balsamum, & aquam, & inuo­cationes quas Hebraicis uerbis dicunt super capit [...] eorum: Yt is reported of thē (saith S. Aust [...] that they haue a new kynde of redempti­on for such as dye amongst them which is done with oyle / balsam / & water / and by certein inuocatiōs & praiers that they say ouer the heads of the dead with Hebrew words. Yf S. Austen were alyue at thes [...] daies / The burial of the dead amōgst t [...]ese▪ Heretiques and [...] Pa­pists agree [...]. & saw what a work the popishe sec [...] make about the burieng of there dead [...] with there Oyling Perfūing Sensing & sprinkelling of there coniured water / ā [...] [Page 115] with there mumbling / and pattering of words / which the peple vnderstand no better then hebrew / Think you not he wold iudge the Papists to be as mad as the Heracleonits? The fashiō of cūly burieng the dead / was godly setfurth in the last bok of common prayer made in king Edwards dayes / aswell for the reuerent v­sing of the dead corps / as for the consolation and edifieng of the congregatiō present. The vnnecessarie cure of the dead / was by speciall commandiment forbid­den to priests in the old Testament. Nu. 6. And Christ himself forbad his disciples to truble themselues with that care. Math. 8. And yet is there no one thing more regardid in the papacie / and no maruaile / Luc. 9. so greet lucre and gayn hanging apon it. Tertullianus lib. 4. contra Marcionem Nu. 6. How be it Tertul. in his fourth book against Martiō semeth to proue aswell / by the vj. Cap. of Leuit. as by the 9. of Luk. that a priest ought not to cum to thē that be dead / no thought it were his father / his mother / or his brother / because priests haue some agreemēt with the study of the Nazares for the [...] of the kingdō of God The papists ha [...]e brought a nomber of o [...]her [...] out of the old Testament / as a [...] / vestments / m [...]tare [Page 116] altars / etc. sauing that priests wyues they left behynde them / which were alo­wed by Gods word in the old Testament not as a ceremony / The God that the papists loke apon is Gayn. but as a thing neces­sary / And in stead of them they haue re­compensed themselues / with diligence in oyling / anoynting / sensing and other ce­remonies about the dead. And no small profet hangeth apon these two pointes. For lak of wyues increaseth there estima­tion in the sight of the ignor [...]. And the­re paines about the dead increaseth there purse and vpholdeth there deuisid purgatory / with no small gayn. Wherfore they had rather agre in heresie with the Hera­clionits a thousand tymes / then they wold either haue wy [...]es or lose buriall commodities. The Eunomi­ans and the Papists comparid together. Sozo menus li.vj.ca.xxvj. Brefenes that I study for will not suffer me to compare / the Eunomiās with the Papists in so many things as I might / but this one thing I may not passe ouer. They persuaded there dis­ciples that no sin̄ should hurt them / that 1 were partakers of ther misteries: And do not the Papists say that he shall not be dampned that is buried in S. Fran­ces 2 coat? Stella clerico­r [...]m. And do not some of thē hold that a priest shall not be dampned because he 3 maketh his maker? And that temptatiō shall not ouerthrow them which be ente­rid [Page 117] in to this or that kynde of order?

Now forasmuch as the Papists do te­ach the se [...]fsame doctrine with the Eunomians how shall we dout of there agreemēt otherwyse? The secte of heretiques that were callid Euch [...]tae or Psalliani of whom E­piphanius maketh mention contra Massili­ [...]os, Euchitae. and Saint Austen de haeresibus who for mumbling vp of ther long prayers were callid the praing heretiques (for so soun­deth the Greek word [...]) they wold neauer cease praying ād singing of Psalmes day and night. And so much they gaue them selues to prayer that they thought themselues bound to doe nothing ells: Not to gett there liuing with the sweat of there browes / Not to truble themsel­ues with any office that concerned the commōwel [...]h / Not to study or to put ther hand to any kynd of labor: But to lyue in continuall ydelnes / in only eating / drin­king / sleapīg / and praying. Of whom also thus wryteth the aunceant Greek au­thor / Euchite callid themselues spi­rituall men. Theodoret [...]. Theodoretus li.iiij. de hereti­cis fabulis. The English wherof is this. And the miserable wretches beīg / deceauid / geue thēselues to no kīde of w [...]rk [Page 118] for they call thēselues spirituall mē. But geuing themselues to praying / thei slepe the most parte of the day. The papists ād the heretiques callid [...] comparid toge­ther. I pray the gentle Reader may not a man see the lyfe of monks friers chanōs etc. yea and of these priests / whom the pope cōpelleth to be virgins against there will / in Cathedrall churches / and els where agre with the doings of these heretiques? what other ac­compt can the most of the popes creatu­res make of there life / then might these Heretiques? Donatistae The Donatistes and the Priscillianistes, were folowers the one of Mani­cheus and Gnostici and the other of the Arrians and Cathari. wherfore there opininions be somwhat before touched. S. Austen de heresibus. Yet this one thing I can not omit which S. Austen and other do note of the Priscillianistes the spanishe heretiques. This say­ing (saith he) is alowed & commendid a­mongst them: Priscillianistes the spanishe he­retiques. Iura periura secretum prodere noli: swere and forswere and vtter no se­crets. Oh how wel this rule is obserued of the Papists. This is such a maxime a­mōgst them / that almost all there fetches and practises against Christ / be compas­sed with periury. Perimy am­ongst the Pa­pists is lawful- I wold faine learn an answer to this question / how many Pa­pists be there this day in England / being [Page 119] born in Englād that were not either trayters to there prince king Hēry the VIII. or els periurid apō the holy Euangelists? Our Doctrine whiche is taught by the scriptures of God & was confirmed with the sheding of Christs blud apon the Crosse / is blasphemosly reportid by Martī & his fellowes / in the last end of the first Chap. of his book to haue his begin̄ing of lechory / and to end in Sedicion and treason / which saying is so maliciose / that it wold styrre any trew and earnest fauorer eyther of Gods word / or of the realme / if it had not been vtterid by the pen af a periurid traytor: what man can be dū / whan he seeth trew men falsly accusid / of here­sie / sedition and treason / by a boke set out in prynt? Yea by a book dedicatid to the Queen herself? But wryte on and spare not / God be praised we haue not only spū ges to put out that ye wryte / but we ha­ue also pencils to paynt yow in your co­lors: and be yow well asuerid the world shall see (God willing) ye haue made a smoke wherwith to put out your own ey­es. Of the genealogie of the po­pish heresy. The Genealogy of popry is not vn­knowen to the world / & that it might the better be knowē / I turned a tragedy into the Englishe tōge which was first writtē [Page 120] by the excellēt learned father Bernhardinus Ochinus Senensis & did cause it to be prīted / where it is shewed by a cōtinual discour­se / euē frō the begin̄inge how the popes authoritie first began with flattery / fflatte [...]y Ignoraunce Super­stition lyeng ād Sufferance haue made the po­pe a God. and waxed stronge by ignoraunce / and superstitiō of Princes / and how in tyme sufferance / made the popes Traytors / wherby they toke vpon them suche boldnes that being before but the Emperors chaplens they challendgid to be the Emperors masters. In so much that Hildebrand a pope of Rome and first a monk / Gregorie the .vij. pope of Rome made the Empereour stād [...] forte iij. dayes in f [...]ost and snow with­out dore A. g [...]od lesson for the clergy how they shall kepe lay mens neks vnder ther gye­dell· otherwise nam­ed Gregorius .7. was neither ashamed nor afraid to force Henry the fourth (than being Emperor) to stand 3 dayes / barfote / in the frosty tyme of winter / without do­re / and wold not suffer the Emperor / to be admitted to his presence. This treason of the popes was allway vpholdid and defendid / by periure / hypocrisie / idolatrie / & a continuall forge of lyeng / all which ab­hominations / being once entrid into the church of Rome / haue not seuerid thēsel­ues from the beginnīg / but kepe toge­ther / not ōly in the pope / but in al papists to this day. And for a more large pro­fe of the cōtinuāce of periury emong the Papists / if it may please you to read a pece [Page 121] of there doings / in the popish generall counsell at Constance / ye shall affirme my saying to be trueth. Ih [...]n Hus and Hier [...]m of Praga were [...] sid [...]y the coun­sell to cum [...]afe and go [...]efe / and yet were they c [...]ntra [...] to the fa [...]th / ta [...]n and burned. Yt may please yow to vnderstand / that the worthy Martyrs of Iesus Christ Ioan. Huss and Hier. a Praga, were callid to this generall counsell and fayth was made to them that by safe conduct / they should cum safe / and return sa­fe where yow se / the first point is of the spanish Heretiques / that is to say ( Iura) swere. But when the papists had once caught thē / they brak promes with them / and wold not suffer thē to departe / but li­ke false murderers burned thē / Lo there is ( periura) forswere. Yet lest they shuld seem to do any thing wherin all there sect did not consent (establishing this practi­se of the Priscillianistes) they made this Antichristian law / in the 19 seszion. Concilium Cō ­stantiense ses [...]i­one xix.

Praesens sancta synodus, ex quouis saluo con­ductu, per Imperatorem, Reges & alies seculi principes, haereticis, uel de haeresi diffamatis, Putantes eos sic de suis err [...]ri [...]us reuocare quccunque uinculo se astrinxerint conc [...]sso, nullum fidei Catholicae, uel Iurisdictioni Ecclesiasticae praeiudicium generari, uel impedimentum praestari posse seu debe [...]e de­clarat, quo minus dicto saluo conducto non o [...]stante, lic [...]at iudici compe [...]enti & ecclesiastico, de hu­iusmodi [Page 122] personarum erroribus inquirere, & alias contra cos debite procedere, eosdemque punire, quantum iustitia suadebit, si suos errores reuoca­re pertinaciter recusauerint, etiam si saluo condu­cto confisi ad locum uenerint iudicij, alias uero non uenturi, nec sic promittentem, cum alias fece­rit quod in ipso erat, ex hoc in aliquo remāsisse ob­ligatum. The English wherof is this.

This present holy counsell / doth pub­lish and declare / The popishe councell of Cō ­stance maketh periury lawful [...]y a law / iudge whether the ho­ly gost were ther or not. that there can no preiu­dicie hurt or hinderāce cum to the Catho­lique faith / or to the Ecclesiasticall iu­risdiction / by reason of any safe conduct / grātid by the emperor / by kings or other prīces of the earth / to ani which either be heretiques or diffācd of heresi / for what promes or bond soeuer the same princes haue made vnto them (ther safe conduct not withstanding) it is lawfull to any cō petent Ecclesiasticall iudge / to enquier of the errors / yea although they cum to the place of iudgement / trusting apon there safe conduct / so that otherwise / they wold not haue cū / Neither is he that maketh such promes / any whit bound to perform it / if he haue donne tha [...] / that in him lay otherwise. By this wicked decree of of Generall Counsell thow maist aswel see / the error of a generall coūsell / as the [Page 123] error of the Priscilliāists (though not by expresse name / The practise of this popish general councell ād the doctrin of the Priscillianis [...]s agree. A generall coū sell doth erre. Iouinian and the Papists cō ­parid together. yet in deed) confirmed amongst the Papists / which by Saint Austen Irene Epiphanius. Theodoret. &c. is in these heretiques most worthily condempned.

Saint Hierom. calleth Iouinian the Epicure of the Christians. Whom he so iudgeth because of his wordly pleasures / and vo­luptuose lyfe. But was there euer such voluptuose swynes as the pope and his creatures be? loke apon there fare / there ap­parell / ther houses / their moyles / there whores / there boyes / there traynes of ruffiās / ther dailie cardīg / dising / swerīg facing / pouling / theuing / & such lyke ab­hominations / continewed and maintained in there houses. Cōsider the daylie prouisiōs / made to mayntayne there gluttonny / to cōtinew there pryde / to enlarge there pleasures: and Iouinian shalbe coun­ted but a counterfect epicure to the most parte of these lordly creatures of the po­pes generation. These opinions of the Eustachians be To. con. gen. 1. p. 287. Neither Epicurus / nor Aristippus / nor Sardanapalus / neuer sought moe means / for belly far [...] / and wordly pleasu­res thē haue these holy fathers / The agrement of the Papists with the hereti­ques named Eustachiani. who vnd the color of (holy) ād (ffather) fill Christē ­dō ful of the wiked children of the deuel. We read also of a cert [...]in sect of Hereti­ques [Page 124] who were callid of some Eustathians / and of other Som Eustachians in the ty­me of the Councel holden at Gangris in Paphlagonia about the yere of our lord 324 And these heretiques had sondry vsages / 27. q. 2 decret. ex Grego. in reg [...]stro et caetera and held diuerse opinions / which be in these daies alowed and mayntayned by 2 the Papists. First / they persuadid the peple to leaue the yoke of matrimony / & to professe abstinēce from mariadge. The Papists teach the lawfulnes herof and the necessitie also of the obseruation of it when it is don / in sondry places of there deuelish cannon law. The preface of this counsell also sayth of these Heretiques. Vestibus communibus spretis, nouos etiam, & in­solitos habitus assumpsisse (that is) that they did refuse to weare the vsuall garmēts & did put apon them garments of strange fashions And I pray you do not your popish monks / fryers / chanōs / nones / An­chors / hermets / priests / abbats / priors / bushopes / cardinals / yea ād the pope him self the head of this hereticall sect / doe the lyke? And such a desier haue the monks / fryers etc. to varry from the common sort of peple in apparell / that they cā not ag­ree among themselues which is best for there purpose / wherin they may most ea­sely [Page 125] fayne holynes / and deceaue the peple And therfore haue they asmany colors & fashions of apparell / Gangren cons. ca. xij. and strange kynds of disgysing themselues with shauings / and otherwyse / as they haue diuersities of there religions / which be almost infi­nit. What is this els but to renyne aga­ine the strange behauior of these Hereti­ques the Eustachians condempned as appereth in the old counsell holden so mani yeres agō? Moreouer the same coun­sell 3 sayth of these heretiques thus. Primi­tias quo (que) fructuum, & oblationes eorum, quas ue­terum institutio, ecclesijs tribuit, sibimet uendicasse, id est, propria ratiocinatione doctrinae, tanquam sanctis sibi eas offerri dare, apud se, & inter se dis­pēsandas (that is) Moreouer the first fruts and offerings of the people which by the old institution of the elders and fathers were appointed to the cōgregacions: The first f [...]uts for liuing be not vnhonest / but when it is chal­lendged vnder the name of ho­lynes. the same did they chalendge to themselues / & that in consideration of there learning & holynes these things ought to be offirid vnto them / and distributid amongest thē as to men that were holy.

Now consider good reader wheather the popish priests take the t [...]thes of the peple / and conuert them to there own v­se / not only taking / that is necessary and [Page 126] and sufficient to feed & cloth themselues / and conuenient famelie / but also to mayntayne there Epicurishe pompe / as I ha­ue before declarid / comparing them with Iouinian. And I report me to thee all so wheather they chalendge not (as the other rank heretiques the Eustachians did) these tythes vnder the name of dutie to the holy church / calling themselues (holy) and that therfore these things should belong vnto them / as these heretiques 4 the Eustachians did? Fourthly yf a ser­uant myndid to enter there religion / and to take there habite apon him / he might abyde in there clokid religion / in dispite of his master. And what? se yow not the selfsame in practise / and alowed for godlines 5 among the Papists. Many of there women / did clypp there heare vnder a pretense of holynes: And do not the popish 6 nones thesame? Carnium cibos [...]anquā illicitos reputabant, They iudged fleshmeat / as a thing vnlawful? So do the Papists at sondry tymes by them appointid. Moreouer 7 Presbyteros qui Matrimonia contraxerunt sperni debere dicunt (that is) They say / that that such prests as haue contractid mat­rimonie ought to be cōtempned. Behold [Page 127] good reader it is an heresie of the Eusta­chians to cōtempne a maried Priest. It is an heresie of the Eustach [...]ans to cōdemp­ne a maried pr­est in the furs [...] tom. of the gen­erall counseles 287. leaf. And therfore did the same coūsell excom̄unicat all those that refusid to receaue the Sa­crament ministrid at a Maried Priests hāds. These horrible Errors / heresies / & blasphemies against God / the lerned of Christendō / continewingly fiue hundreth yere after Christ condempned & destroied. Which you see / by our new popish heretiques / reuokid / reuiuid / mayntayned ād defended. The papists be vsurpers of the names of Catolik and Ortho­dox as Nestorius and the Donatists were ād of the church etc And yet will they haue the name of holy / of Catholik / of Orthodox / as the Eustachiās as Nestorius & the Dōatists wold & of the church / yea & that of suche a church as can not erre. And there aduersaries / must be callid sediciose heretiques / schis­matiques / theues & traytors. Thus turn they althīgs quyte vpsydoune / light they cal darknes / & darknes light / euell good and good euell. Wherfore it behoueth all men of God / manfulli and without feare to bend themselues against these rank heretiques and enemies of God: and to call apon allmightie God with earnest / feruent / and hartie praier that he will of his infinit goodnes ād mercy throw do [...] Antichrist of Rome the head of there sect with all this shauen sectaries & [...] [Page 128] trumpery / And purge his church of these rotten & hereticall members. That his l [...]uely word / may haue free passage amōge his peple / wherby his chosē flock dispersid / mai be gatherid together to the magnifieng of his holy name / ād the et­ernall comfort of his afflictid people. Yt were to long a matter / to compare the Papists with all the rest of the heretiks / and requyreth rather a speciall treatise where th [...] [...]hing might be amplified as it is worthy: then [...] to be touched as ye see [...] hath caused me for my defence. Yf in this point I haue wrytten any thing that pleaseth thee (good reader) I pray the geue God the thanks and also to render to Martin and his fellowes ther deseruid thanks li­kewise / Occasion bre­deth talk. who haue pricked me to proue what I could say when they callid me heretique. Somwhat ye see my pē by Gods help hath brought forth. And if Martin and his fellowes continew ther talk / thei may chaunce to here more / that shalbe as pleasant to them as this / if there doings be worth the answer. I haue pen / ink / paper and quietnes God be praisid enough all which they haue aswell as I / But one thing I haue on my syde that they haue [Page 129] not / which is a comfort to me / and truble to thē / and that is / Trueth. The Papists build not vpon Gods word. Trueth I say is on my side / as it is plaine by my pro­fes / not groundid apon things that may erre and deceaue (as may traditions and doctrines of man / wherapon the Papists chefely ground themselues) but apon the infallible word of God taught in the old and new Testament / by the holy patri­arks / prophets / Apostles / ād Christ / and haue addid the testimonies of the most aunceāt and godly Martirs / ād fathers. From whom ye se these heretiques wan­derid / euery man his own wayes And ye see also that the Papists / folow the here­tiques / not only one / but many / and that the most notable heretiques / not ōly matchinge / but exceding them / in many of there own heresies and abhominations.

Wherof Christiā reader as thow mayst be iudge / remembringe the discourse which I haue made: so trust I that if thy hart be single / and mynde vncorrupt / vp­right / and voyd of partialitie / the very iudgement of thy conscience will stirre thy tong hereafter to name them as they be.

THis long discourse haue I made to this ēd (as I haue / before declarid) that it might appere whether parte were heretiques. And seīg I haue with diligēt wayīg aswell by the scriptures as by aunc [...]ant wryters (grounding my self apon the very definitiō of an heretique) found Martin and his fellowes giltie with the most rank heretiques that haue bene in the church of god / so that iustly thei cā not deny / but that they haue the ouerthrow I wil take this as a feeld won. And now turning my pen agayn to Martyn thus I resume his maior from the which apon necessary discorse / offerid by Martins order in this book I haue so lōg digressid.

[Page 131]Heresie and lechory sayst thow Mar­ [...]in be commonly ioyned together / Martyns own words. and in [...]he 4 leaf of thy book thow saist ‘(Heresie [...]ysseth not to keep lechory company) wherunto I add this minor or mean pro [...]osition.’ But the Papists be heretiques (which I haue at large prouid) ergo (to [...]on Martyn you Papists be lechors. Martyns reason turned against himself proueth the Papists both heretiques and le­chors. Lo [...]t is often tymes seen / he that wilbe busy [...]urling stones at the son̄e / shall haue thē [...]ight apō his own pate. To what purpo­ [...]e I pray the diddest thow speak of Sim. Magus, Basilides, Carpocrates, and such other heretiques / if it were not to geue him oc­ [...]asion / that should confute thy folishnes / to search how the opiniōs of the Papists and thers agre together? Yf it were to declare that because they were Hereti­ques / they must also be lechors: The sa­me induction being now brought aga­inst the and thy fellowes / must be no lesse hable to proue thee and al other Papists [...]echors: seīg they be shewed by plaine demonstration to be heretiques Yf it were to proue vs heretiques / because ye fayne vs with your lyeng tong to be lechors / thē shuld it folow / that all whores of the [...]tewes / and whoremongers were heretiques / which I am suer the Papists dare [Page 132] not say / for feare of inquisitio haereticae prau [...] ­tatis that is now enterid into England [...] like with the Spaniards to destroy the l [...]bertie of the English nation / The bushops inquisition for he­resy will vndoe England if it [...]e not lo [...]id to in tyme. wherby n [...] doubt shortly the noses of the nobiliti [...] shalbe holden to the gryndstone / and th [...] necks of the commons / tyed vnder th [...] priests gyrdels / from which misery I b [...]sech Iesus Christ saue so many as fauo [...] from the bottom of there hart Christ and the noble realm of England. Amen.

But it may be / that ye sought som oc­casion in the beginnīng of your bok to d [...]uise a quarell by a color of your Rheto­rik callid Canina facundia .i. dogges eloqu [...]ce / Martins weak kynds of reasoning. wherby to bring maried priests int [...] haterid: in alledgīg that the first marie [...] preests in Spayne / in Rome / in ffraunc [...] in Itali / and so forth where ye will / were heretiques. And yet if ye had myndid tha [...] profe / ye shuld haue named none hereti­ques / but such as were maried priests.

But seing all those heretiques whom ye name were vnmaried / as it is euiden [...] by there opinion condempnig mariadge [...] your argument is turnid against you [...] self / for that they were heretiques / and l [...]chors / as yow hold / and vnmaried virgin priests / as you Papists be. And wha [...] [Page 133] [...]old ye cōclude therof / if it were trew? [...]old ye by this / define that all maried [...]riests be heretiques? That kind of rea­ [...]oning is not vnlike to this? Gen. 4. The first [...]orn child that Adam had was wicked / na [...]ely Cayn. Gen. 16. Martins rea­son Confutid with the like. The first born child that Abra [...]am, had / was wicked / namely Ismaell / The [...]irst born child that Isaac had / was wicked [...]amely Esau. Ergo the first born and el­ [...]est children of all mē be wicked. Or els [...]his way. Sam. 15. Saull was the first king that [...]as chosen to rule Israell / and he was [...]n euell man. Titus Liuius Dec. 1. lib. 2. Romulus the first king in Rome / who lyke a most trayterose tyrāt [...]ylled his own brother Remus wherfo­ [...]e he also was an euell man. The firstkin [...]e in Spayne was a tyrant / Albertus Cran [...]. li. iij. ca. xxilj. [...] gottor [...]. that came [...]ut of Gothia. The first king in Fraunce [...]hat obtained any generall rule alone was the Tyrant Clodoueus / which when [...]e had ouercum the Persians / Poli. in the [...] story of Eng­land. The [...] of the old here [...]e [...] in sond [...]y [...] were [...] priesis that pretendid virgi­nitie Ep. lib. [...]i. occupied [...]he kingdom of ffraūce by tyranny. The [...]irst Emperor was Iulius Caesar, who en­ [...]red by cyuill warre / treason / and tyran̄y, [...]he first king in England that rayned a [...]on / draue out the other kings / and occu­ [...]ied there lands and posseszions by tyran [...]y: will yow now therfore conclude that [...]ll kings be naughty men and tyrants?

[Page 134] The first heretique that euer was after Christ abhorred the godly mari­adge of Priests and kept a who­re.Yf this kind of reasoning seem so goo [...] in your sight▪ then I pray you harken t [...] this other lyke therunto. The first heret [...]que that euer was in all the world afte [...] Christs death was Simon Magus of Samari [...] who hauing not the gyft of sole lyfe / wol [...] not enter the holy state of matrimony / bu [...] folowing / or rather beginning the popi [...]he kinde of chastitie / kept a harlot name [...] Selene / The first heretique in Persia abhorrid the mariadge of priests Aug. Epistola lxxiiij. Deute­rio CCxliiij. af­ter Christ. or Helena as some do call her▪ The first Heretique that was in Persi [...] was Manes / the first roote of the heret [...] ques callid Mamcheis who lyuid in su [...] chastitie / as the popish priests do / not on­ly refusing to marry himself / but conde [...] pning mariadge in the ministers of hi [...] sect / The first Ana­baptist was an vnmaried priest whom they callid (as Saint Auste [...] Epist. 72. saith) Electos. The first Anabap­tist in Rome was Nouatus the heretik a [...] vnmaried priest whose sect alowed no [...] mariadge in ther preests and denyed rep [...] tance to offendors. The first here­tik in spaine ab­horred mariad­ges of priests. The first heretik [...] that sprāg in Spaine were the Priscilliani [...]stes / (as Saint Austen witnesseth) abou [...] the yere of our lord 386 who so much ab­horrid the mariadge of priests and of o­ther of there sect / Aug. de heret. that they caused the sa­me practise which now most shamefull [...] is practised in England (that is to say [Page 135] they causid to be diuorsid uiros â nolentibus foeminis, & foeminas, â nolentibus uiris .i. mē frō there vnwilling wyues / The first notable heretique in in England was a vnma­ried monk. an̄o Dom. 400. and wyues from there vnwilling husbands (as Saint Austen saith) The author of that sect was Priscillianus an vnmaried Bushop of Abile in Spaine. The first notable Hereti­que of England was Pellagius a monk / about 400 yere after Christ / who lyued such a single lyfe as the Papists now doe. The first nota­ble heretik in Affrica was an vnmaried priest.

And about a hūdreth yere before him The first notable heretique in Affrica was Arrius an vnmaried priest of Alexandria as both Epiphanius Eusebius / and other do witnes whose virginitie was much lyk to doctor Westons sauing that Arrius, kept himself close / and Doctor westons knauery is knowen to all men. The first nota­ble heretik in Armenia and Paphlagonia was an vnma­ried priest. The first here­tiks in Paphlagonia, and Armenia were Eu­stachiani, whose chefe heresie was the condempnīg of priests mariadge / so that thei refusid to receaue the communion at the hands of such priests as were maried for the which thinge they were condempn̄ed as I haue before declarid in the Coūcell holdē at Gangris about the tyme of the Ni­cene Councell which was cōfirmed by the syxt synod in Trullo / Anno. D. 324. holden at Constanti­nople. And from whence came the doc­trine [Page 136] of Machomet / which now is folo­wed of the Turkes and Saracens / Sergius an vnmaried mo­nck was the furst beginner of the Turcks law. and is muche largelyer spred abrod then is the doctrine of Christ? cam it not from Sergius an vnmaried monke / that fled for his na­ughtines from Byzans / of whose leszons Mahomet mad his Alcoran? Heresie and le­chory meet to­gether in vnmaried Priests. And all heretiques before the tyme of Heiuidius (if it were trew as vow say that Heluidius were the first maried priest in Christendō) we­re vnmaried priests: Yet were some of them Stupratores uirginum, & depopulato­res matrimoniorum rauishers of virgins ād defylers of matrimony as Saint Cyprian wryteth of Nouatus. S. Cyprian lib. j. epist. iij. Some liuid in luxuria & uoluptatibus as yow testifie of Carpocra­tes, etc. now to cōclude All these of whō I haue spoken / were priests / & vnmaried priests & heretiques / The sophistical reasoning of the Papistes disclosid / and [...] the lyke confu [...]id. ergo al your popish virgī priestes (if your reason were good) that marry not / be heretiks. And now ye see what ye haue wō with reasonīg ab inde finito ad uniuersale. Which kynde of rea­soning is commonly vsed in the logick of yow Papists. As one speciall place amō ­gest many other / the reader shall fynd in Gardiners bok against my lord of Can̄ ­terbery whiche appeareth in my sayd lord of Cāterberies bok in the latter end of the [Page 137] sixt pagine wherunto in the latter ende of the VII. pagine / S. Gardiner. my lord maketh a le­arned answer / open̄yge to the world Gardiners vnlearned kynd of reasoninge. Yf now Martin / thow canst not deuyse so­me prety kynde of shift / wherby thow maist recant / and make this reason na­ught / thow hast shamed thy selfwith thy first Chapter / The som̄e wherof standeth apon this point: that heresy and lechory be commonly ioyned together. Which saying / thou prouest none otherwise trew then that the first maried priests in some countryes were heretiques / and by cer­tain notes / etc. And like as it is a shame for the in such a weighti matter / to make such a bald reason thoughe thye grounds were trew: so thy grounds being vntrew thy rebuk is increased / for who knoweth not that Saint Peter was a priest? and the gospell restifieth that he had a wyfe / the Euangelists say that Christ healid peters wyues mother of a feauer. Math. 8. Luc. 4. [...] lib. 7. Clemens Alex.

And Clemens Alexandrinus testifieth that he did not put her away / but continewed with her till she dyed in martyrdom for Christs sake / which Martyn denyeth / ād the same Clement sayeth that Peter spa­ke to her when she was in dyeng saying [Page 138] to her Vxor memento Domini wyfe remem­ber the lord / and that this is trew Saint Hierom against Iouinian can not denye And I am suer thow wilt not denye but that Peter dwelt XXV. yeres at Rome (for so yow Papists hold) Now if it were trew / that the first maried priest in Ita­ly (as thow dost alledg for the profe of thy purpose) were an heretique / then by this means shuld Peter be an heretique onles thow wilt say that Rome is not in Italy. For that it was not / Heluidius / shalbe reasoned hereafter. Martin can not proue that the first maried priest in Fraunce was an here­tique by Turo­ [...]te [...]se concili­um as he alled­geth. To. ij. pa. ij. And for fur­ther profe of thy purpose / thow saist also that the first maried priest in Fraūce was an heretique / which saying thow prouest by the second councell holden at Towers / a worthy coūsell I promes yow / of eight frenche pusshops all a great / gathered together without the popes consent / which marreth all the matter by the iudgement of the Papists. but let it be grauntid that it had bene a generall Coūcell / as it was none / and that the busshops being all Papists had not bene so: yet doth not the 20. Canon by the alledged proue thy purpo­se that the first maried priest in Fraunce was an heretique. But it sayth that this opinion (or heresie as this iolly counsell [Page 139] nameth it) a quodam presbytero primū surrex­it. Ye may see by the Latin what antiquitie and learning these bushops were of sprang first of a certein priest / not naming where he dwelt / neither whether he were maried or vnmaried / But apon this place ye note vpon the margent of your bok / ‘The first maried priest in Fraūce was an heretique.’where all men may see of that place / it may aswell be gathe­red that it was an vnmaried priest. The place serueth aswell for the one as the o­ther. Yea & it is to be thought that Here­sis presbyterorum, not to be of the mariad­ge of priests of Fraunce / but some other heresy begon by certein priests. For if it had been an heresie / maried priests sho­uld not haue bene suffered to receaue the communion. Look bak in thy book of generall Councells one hundreth yere / and thow shalt fynde another Councell / holdē in the very same place at Towers / in the tyme of Leo the first / where the Councel found falt with there forefathers which had made lawes wherby to remoue maried priests from the communion / and toke apon them to moderat that wicked law / D.xxxiiij. [...] in preterito in Glosa. which was before that tyme made by pope Syritius (a man altogether vnler­ned in the scriptures / as by his re­asonning hereafter shall appeare) [Page 140] by the which moderation / The strayt law if Pope [...] against the [...]ariadge [...] condemp­ned by Conci­l [...]m Turost. i. can. 2.442. after Christ. it is euident that they did condempne the extremitie and vngodly Iudgement of Syritius and other the enemies of priests mariad­ges. The words of the Canon be these. ‘Although it hath been ordeined by our forefathers that what soeuer priest or deacon were conuictid / that he gaue himself to the procreation of children / he should ab­staine from the communion of the lord / Nos tamen huic districtioni moderationem adhi­bentes, & iusta Cōstitutione mollientes id decreui­mus &c. We not withstanding that ordi­naunce (sayth the decree) adding a moderation to this rigor / & tempering it with indifferency / Thus haue decreed. That a priest or deacon whiche remaineth in the desier of matrimony / or els absteineth not from procreacion of children / let him not ascend to any higher state or promotion / neither offer sacrifices to God / Maried Priests be not remouid from the com­munion. or mini­ster to the peple. This only may be suffi­cient for them / that they benot remouid from the communion / but that they may kepe these things / they must cut of drun­kenes the mo [...]her of all vices etc.’

By this Canon it is plaine good rea­der 1 that 44 [...] yere after Christ it was no Heresy in fraunce for a preest to haue a [Page 141] wyfe / nor whordome neither / (as Mar­tin 2 vylie termeth it) / neither was it a fil­thy 3 thing / for then should the Counsel haue done amisse to alow him to receaue the communion / 442. after Christ in [...] it was no [...] for a preest to haue a wife. which was a more holy thinge than euer was there Idoll the masse caak. And allthoughe the superstition of these french busshops / do somwhat appe­are in denieng him to minister the com­munion to other / yet doth ther folishnes appere withall / The Papists seem to hold that the [...] of the mi­nis [...]er [...] tit [...]e the [...] / as do the An [...]bap­tists / and the Eustachians. in that they alow the ma­ried priest to receaue it himself / if he were (as Martin sayth) an Heretique. Who cā iudge / a matter of lesse weight to re­ceaue the communion then to minister it? Belyke they were of this opinion / that the vncleanes of the minister / did hurt the thing ministrid Which was the opinion of the Heretiques named Eustachiani as apereth by the first and 4 Cannons of the Councell holden at Gangris: Gangrense cō ­ciliū, can. 1 et 4 and is at this day the opiniō of the Anabaptists. And Martin with all such papists / as say that a priest may not marry because of the vnclea­nes that should be in the minister after lyeng with his wyfe / and therfore may not minister the Sacrament / do declare that it is the plain opinion of the sect of the Papists as I haue partly before touched. [Page 142] And although I haue here matter inoughe wherwith to charge the Pa­pists and Martin ther proctour / concer­ning this point / that the vncleanes of the minister ought not to be regarded / in case that mariadge could make the minister vnclean (as none but heretiques and Papists say): I will leaue that matter vntill another place / where I intend to de­bate more at large the cleanes of mariadge in all states / Martins lye. for this present it shal be sufficient for the reader to vnderstand / that Martin maketh a lye in telling the reader / Synodus Turonen. 2. ca. 13. Et. ca. 14. that the 30. Canon of the secōd Councell at Towers / in Fraunce proueth that the first maried priest in Fraūce was an Heretique. I passe ouer / that euen in thesame 2. popish prouinciall counsell of Towers in Fraunce the XIII. canon grā teth the busshop to haue his wyfe as his sister. and so rule the ecclesiasticall ād his owne house / And allso that the XIII. Canon of the same councell maketh mention of the busshops wyfe calling her Episcopa. Episcopa.

That is to say the busshops wyf or busshopes / charging all busshops that lak wyues / that they shall haue no cum­pany or trayne of women folowing them etc. onles they haue wyues. And to set [Page 143] one Papist [...] [...]aynst another and to bea [...] you with [...] oun Doctors look in the bok named Manipulus Curatorum / Manipulus Curatorum. wher the Papist Guido de monte Rocherij. confesseth speakinge of the Sacrament of orders / that in the primatiue churche / preests had wyues / and that they were callid Presbyte­rae / and these be his very words. Pressbyte­ra autem uocatur, quia secundum morem primiti­uae ecclesiae erat uxor presbyteri / (that is to say / the preests wif is callid Presbytera / Presbytera. becau­se that accordinge to the fashion of the primitiue Church / she was the preestes wyf.

And thus ye see that we doe not only proue by your own Doctors that preests had wiues in the primatiue churche / but we also shew how they were then named. S. Hylary bushop of Potiers in fraunce was maried MCC yeres agon. And I will also teache Martin that this is wrytten of S. Hylary bushop of poti­ers in France (two hundreth yere before the 2. Coūsell at Towers that he alledged) that he was both a bushop / and a ma­ried bushop / And lest Martyn shuld say that he absteined from his wyfe / which he had before he was busshop (as he fasly sayth all busshops do) I shall desier the to call to remembrāce / the epistle that he wrote beīg an old mā (as he saith himself there) [Page 144] to his doughter Abram, who was so yong that he doutid whether she could vnderstand his wryting or not / The words of Buss [...]op Hila­ri to his daugh­ter Abram. and therfo­re said vnto her Tu uero si quid minus, per ae­tatem in hymno, & epistola intelligis, interroga matrem tuam. Yf by reason of your tēder age / ye can not vnderstand the hympne & the Epistle / aske your mother / and immediatly he calleth her his most dear daug­hter. Wherby it may appeare in Saint Hylaries dayes it was lawfull for a bus [...]hop in Fraunce to haue a wyfe / for other [...]wise the holy man Hylary / wold not ha­ue vsid it. And the age of himself / and the youth of his daughter / seē to proue that she was begotten after he was made bus [...]hop. Martin con­dempneth S. Hilary for an Heretique. But Martyn lyke himself / trium [...]pheth saying no bushops had wyues bu [...] heretiques / wherin his rayling tōg con­dempneth Hylary for an Heretique / i [...] any man wold beleue him / But his ton­ge is no slaūder / to all such as know him God be praisid. Also for further profe of his purpose he alledged out of Sain [...] Hierom against Heluidius that the firs [...] maried priest in Italy / Martin [...] S. Hierō. yea in the whol [...] world (as he saith) was an Heretique Mark now good reader and thow sha [...] [Page 145] here a gloriose lye of Martins. I call it gloriose / because he hath set it forth with such a glory not here only / but hereafter in the 118. leaf also. Fo. iij. Mar­tins [...]un words Martīs words in his first place be these. ‘In Italy the first preest that maried: was he any better? (meaning then an heretique) S. Hierom saith it was Heluidius the heretique which de [...]yed our blissid lady to haue continued a v [...]gin.’These be the words of the great cl [...]k Master Doctor Martī the lawyer (as off hīself he sayth) but I might / bet­ter haue said / of D. Martin the lyar. For doutles he is a thousand fold better seen in lyeng then lawīg. Which appereth not only by the most parte of the notes in the margēt in his first Chapter (pointing to the text of lyke trueth) that be most com­menly lyes: but also by this place / and an infinit nomber of other / wher he belieth falsly the old Wryters / not only in falsly turning them / and wrything there say­ings against there meanings: but also in most falsly aduouching them to say / Martin belie­eth the old wryte [...]s. that they say not / as in this place / he maketh a most shamfull lye apon Saint Hierom. for I assuer the good reader that Saint Hierom saith not in all his book against Heluidius that he was (as Martin re­porteth) [Page 146] the first maried priest in Itally No Saint Hierom saith not that Heluidius was maried / and how may it then be trew that Saint Hierom saith he was the first maried priest in Italy? So now ye see that Martin is not contentid to make one lye apon Saint Hierom / but he must also lay one in anothers neck / re­porting Saint Hierom to say that Hel­uidius was the first priest that maried in Italy: because it is a lye that he was maried at al / And yet sayth Martī S. Hie­rom reporteth that he was not only maried / but also the first maried priest in Ita­ly. And in this point also Martin is not a litle to be blamed that he doth not only belye Saint Hierom / but also the thing it self is a lye which he faineth S. Hierom to say, Martin ascry­beth a lye to S. Hierom. But yow will aske me how I can proue that Saint Hierom saith not so? Forsoth two waies / First I am contentid to be iudged by the whole book which S. Hierom hath wrytten against Heluidius. Secondarily I am cōtent to let Martin himself be iudge / for these be his words which immediatly folow this lye before wrytē. Martins words. And (sayth Martī) he saith not (meaning by S. Hie) that he was the first maried priest in Italy / Loe [Page 147] god reader what neede I to haue any further condempnacion for Martin in this point / then his own pen? Well doth S. Hie. say so? no verily sayth Martin. why thē for shame suffereth he those lines be­fore in the text? A note to be put in the margent of Martins book. & that note in the mar­gent / to stād in his book / without adding vnto it / some such note as this is? Beleue not Mar. in this place / for here he lyeth [...]gregio [...]ly. ‘Why but I pray you / is it not enoghe for Martī to say that Saint Hierom saith not so? yes forsoth enoghe [...]o proue the other saying a lye. Note that Martin tur­neth the word Sacerdos by the englishe word spiritu­all. But to [...]rocede / if S. Hierom say not so / I pray [...]ou what saith he? marry (saith Martin) He saieth not that he was the first mari [...]d priest in Italy.’ But the first priest that [...]ecame both spirituall and temporall in [...] the whole world. Martin defen­deth one lye with another. Now belike Martin [...]ath lokid so narrowly to his matters [...]hat he will not be taken with his accu­ [...]omed fashion of lyenge. But what will [...] say if this also be a lie? think yow not [...] thē he were a meet man to lye for the [...]hetstone? Verely god read this is no les [...] lye thē the other for this saying is not [...] all Saint Hierom neither / wherby [...] may se his Tonge so accustomed to [...] / that he can not when he Wold / [Page 148] say trueth? But I pray yow what sa­ith S. Hierō of Heluidius? forsoth that which foloweth in Latin in Martīs own boke. these be his words. Solus in uniuerso mundo laicus simul & sacerdos, The English wherof is this: he ōly in the whole world was both at once a priest and a lay man. In the whiche words thow maiest see good reader / that there is no mēcion nei­ther that he was the first maried prist in Italy / neither that he was the first maried priest in all the whole world / neither that he was maried onles ye wil say that all lay men be maried / yea if it were trew that all lay men were maried men yet is there neuer a word in Saint Hierom neither of (Italy) Martins ma­nifest vntreuth in alledginge olde authors. nor of (first) nor of (last) nor of (mariadge) Now may you see what credit is to be geuē to Martin wh [...] ̄ he alledgeth old authors. But it may be peraduenture he will say the printer de­ceaued him / and put it in of his own head I think there be now / plentie of such pri [...]ters in England that prynt they care no [...] what / so they may gaine neuer so litle though it be horrible blasphemy agains [...] God & his Aūgels as in the books tha [...] com forth dayly pryntid by Cawawoo [...] and such lyke appeareth. But Marti [...] [Page 149] can not escape so / for in 118 leaf 1. G. pa. 2. he maketh the selfsame lye agayn / and saith also there / that the heretique Heluidius was the first maried priest that we read of in all Christēdom. Martin con­firmeth this lie with repeating the same in the 118. leaf 1. g. 2. pag. 2. Yt is the proper­tie of some lyers / when they haue told a lye ones or twyse or oftner / that by often telling of there lyes to other / at last they think them true themselues / ād so it may be that Martin by often telling this vaine fable / doth now think it is a most true story. But seing it is plainly shewed that Martyn fayleth in the profe of his gro­unds where he intendid to proue by in­duction / the first maried priest in Italy / ād in France / & so forth / were heretiques (thoughe he were able to make some profe of other maried priests in other cun­tryes) A plain decla­ration that Martins rea­sons proue not. yet can not his reason hold as I haue at large before declarid / because so­me partes of the Induction being improuid / the reason rūneth but from an inde­finite / to an vniuersall / which kynd of reasoning yong Sophisters in Cambridge be shent when they vse.

But Martin fearing lest all his brabling will not serue his turn / hath pyked out a pece of Saint Hierom / where he semeth to note certain properties and qua­lities [Page 150] / which he sayth be commonly in heretiques / and stryueth to aply the same to such as had professed Christs gospell in England. The words be these / as he doth alledge them. Notes pikid out of S. Hie­rom by Mar­tin wher by to know an hereti­que. Raro haere [...]ici dili­gunt castitalem, & quicunque amare pudicitiam se simulant ut Manichaeus, Martion, Arrius, Tati­anus, & instauratores ueteris haereseos, Venenato ore mella promittunt, caeterum iuxta Apostolum quae secretè agunt, turpe est di [...]ere.

The English wherof (as you Martin haue handelid it) doth euidently proue that yow vnderstode not the latin / for this place doth so playnly set furth the properties of the popish virgin priests / and of the other Papists / that in all Saint Hierom there can not lightly be found a bet­ter. wherfore that the reader may vnder­stand the true sence of it / I will translate it truly / that your falshod in translation may apperare when my translation and yours shalbe laid together. Hierom. li. ij. in Osce. ix. ‘Heretiques (saith S. Hierom) ād all suche as pretēd that they loue Chastitie / do very seldom l [...]ue it in deed / As Manichaeus, Martion, Arrius▪ Tatianus, / and the renewers of the old heresie. They promise hon [...] with a poysoned mouth / but accor [...]ding to the saying of the Apostle / it i [...] [Page 151] a filthie thing to vtter what they doe in secret.’Now mark good reader Saint Hierom in this place inueieth sharply against the old Heretiques which wold not marry themselues / The places of S. Hierom brought in by Martin be dy­rectly against himself. nor alow mariadge in other but pretendid such a holynes with a shew of virginitie / and hatered of mariadge / that with there holy looks & sweet words they deceauid the peple.

Wherby thow maist well perceaue that this place of Saint Hierō maketh fully against such priests as say they ha­ue the gyft of Chastitie / and haue it not / that lyue in whoredom and marry not / that pretend holynes in the sight of the peple but lead a filthy lyfe in corners / ād in secret. And for example he nameth a nomber of heretiks that were vnmari­ed priests / as the popish preests be / and thought mariadge to be to vnclean a thing / to be in a minister / as all the Pa­pists doe / let Martin himself denye yf he can that these were vnmaried / so that ther is nothinge here / that agreeth not fully with the Papists. Lo how ignorance blindeth Martins eyes. Ye may see how he [...]s felled with his own weapon. All the [...]it he had culd not / or els of frowardnes [...]e wold not / make a sence of this place. [Page 152] But note his impudency / In his translation out of the latin into the English / Words addid by Martin in Englishing the latin wich be not in the latin of S. Hierom. he putteth in these words (against the Sa­crament of matrimony) which be not in the latin / mynding as it semeth by a sle­ight / for want of other profe to perswa­de the vnlerned reader by this peece of S. Hierom̄ that mariadge is a Sacramēt.

Which if it so did / yet were it no more for his purpose in this place / then any vayne talk of the moone / or other by matter.

So in this place we haue also an other testimony of Martīs falshod. & see plainly that the notes / Martins own markes declare hym an heretik. wherby he myndid to haue (with the authoritie of Saint Hie­rom) descrybed vs / do paint himself and his popish virgin priests euidently to our eyes. But Martin suspecting by lyk that these notes also / either could not at al / or not sufficiently serue his purpose / he procedeth to another pece of S. Hie­rom. Hierom in Hiere .xxiiij. [...]educinge as before / his reason [...] posteriore / trusting that now he hath foūd out such notes / wherby to proue vs here­tiques / as we can not auoyd. And his no [...]tes be these. ‘They geue themselues t [...] gluttony to delicatnes / to eating of flesh (whom therfor Martin calleth fleshmo [...]gers) to haunting of baynes / they smel [...] [Page 153] of musk and perfumes / and with sondry other ointments they procure themselu­es to be bewtifull of body.’I think Martyn wold neuer haue medled with this place / Another place of S. Hierom brought in by Martin is a­gainst himself. if it had not bene for a desier that he had to turne the latin words ( carnibus uescuntur) by the new found english term of fleshmongers / rather then the eating of flesh / as the word soundeth / but the de­uise of such fantasticall termes agreeth wel with Martins pen / But to the pur­pose of this note / all mē know right well that as absteinīg / These old here­tiques were condempned amongest other opinion [...] for that theī disswadid men from eating of flesh. doth not proue a good Christian man / so doth not eating of flesh proue a mā an heretique / Manichaei, Tatia­ni, Montani, Cataphryges, Aeriani, Priscillianistae Saturninus, Basilidiani, and many other old archheretiks absteined from flesh and taught this Doctrine that the eating of flesh did defyle a Christian man / and yet notwithstanding there doctrine and ab­stinence / they were rank Heretiques.

Wherfore it semeth that S. Hierom did not finde falt with them that eat flesh but with them that eat it not for the satis­fiēg of there honger / but of their pleasu­re and in such case the eating of fish or of bread other / is not commendid. The Christen man abhorreth superfluous dyet / ād [Page 154] the vayn pleasur that is increased of ea­ting without necessitie / The dyet of a Christian man. and without re­spect of the kynd / whether it be fish or flesh / knowing that all creatures of God be good / if they be taken with thanks geuing / for they be sanctified by the word of God and praier. 1. Timoth. 4. And also that which entreth the mouth / defileth not the man but that which commeth out of the mouth defileth the man / Math. 15. (that is to say) euell thoughts / murther / adultery / whoredō theft false [...]ortnes / Martin with his notes ma­keth the Papists heretiks and slaunder. And where as Martin thinketh the other notes / as smellinge of muske / and washing in baynes / and paintinge of faces etc. be notes wherby to know Heretiques: Then it is an easie matter in princes courtes / ād busshops houses / and many other mens houses also / to fynde out Heretiques by the nose / without the popes kynde of In­quisitio haereticae prauitatis. Yf (I say) the sa­uors of Cy [...]et / musk / perfumes / and ointments be sufficient notes to proue an heretik (as Martins diuinitie out of S. Hierom semeth to inferre) Then must it also folow / How a man man finde out the rankest here­tik in a compa­ny with his no­te by Martins doctrine. that the greater & strōger sa­uor shall proue the greater and stronger heretique And then if a man wold finde out the Rākest heretique in a company / [Page 155] his best way is to get him to a popish procession / (for sermons be laid a syde which reproued the abuse of such things) or to Masse / specially apon a highe day / ād he shall try out by his nose / who is not only an heretik / but also who is the most arrant / and most rank Heretique aboue the rest. And it is lyke that the fayerer / and greater nose shall doe (in this case) the better seruice / ād therfor it might be thought good that the Queē / in bestow­ing her bushopriks / should consider not so muche the learninge of the party / as whether he haue a fayer nose or not that is skilfull in sauors. For the bushops no­se (by this doctrin of Marrin) shall doe him as good seruice / as some handsom Sōner / & in deed might some tyme smel out his maister / for the most can kerid heretique in the company. Well seing it is so that we be condempned for heretiks because we smell of perfumes & hote sa­uors / and delicate fare etc (Yf it be trew that Martin saith) Then take you heed / you seely sould Papists / of your needles break fasts / of your stretchbelly din̄ers / of your gluttonuse suppers / reare suppers blowsinge bākets / & Epicureus fare: Take heed of your hote wynes / of your hote spyces / and continuall iunketing chere / [Page 156] Take heed how yow vse baines / or strōg sauors / Take heed ye paint not your fa­ces to make ye seem more bewtifull then you be in deed / take hede ye cary not clo­ues or some lyke thinge / in your mouth­es to saue your breath from stinking / ta­ke hede ye dwell not in the north (which is an other of Martyns notes): for in case ye offend in these things / your great learned proctor / master Doctor Thomas Martin the lawyer by his diuinitie hath prouid you all heretiques. And as touching my self and other / whom it pleaseth his masshepe / to call heretiks / we are cō ­tentid let this be the issew: wheather of the Papists or of vs haue more of these notes / let thē be callid heretiks with sha­me enoughe / ād let the other syde be cal­lid Catholiks and Christiās according to his clerkly determinatiō. ‘ Martin. Oh (saith Martin) if S. Hierom had lyued in our dayes trow yow that he wold haue wrytten eny lesse of our maried priests?’Verely it may be thought / Winchester. if he were a lyue at these da­yes / and saw Martins wrything of his wryting / he wold not iudge Martin one of he wysest / applyeng that / S. Hie­rom spake of the filthy vnmaried here­tiks / to the godly maried priests of our [Page 157] daies / for besyds al other profes this on ne (where S. Hierom saith he speaketh of them ‘ qui pudicitiam amare se simulant’ (as Martī also alledgeth) that is / Lib. 2. in 9. ca­put Osee. which pretend they haue a loue to chastitie) shewed plainly that his sayings must be applyed to such vnmaried / as the popish Priests be / and can not be applyed to them which without dissembling there infirmitie for the auoyding of fornicacion take them wyues / and liue in the godly state of ma­trimony

Also besyds his plain words qui pudici tiam amare se simulant. i. Which pretend that they loue Chastitie / the heretiks whō S. Hierom reherseth for profe and example wer vnmaried priests / Hierom in ca. xi Daniel. and therfore (as thow seest) must needs be applied to such a wyueles dissembling generatiō / as the same Hierom noteth Antichrist there holy father. Yea and it is further to be thought that if he were this day aliue / he wold commend [...]. Luther / Oecolampa­dius, D. Capito, Bucer, & [...]. Peter Martyr / for the sinceritie of there doctrine / & for that with wryting apon the Scryptures they haue geuen such a light / as Saint Hierom his eyes wold be ioyfull to see thoughe it were with the retractation of [Page 158] other things / besyds those wherwith his freends charged him in his books aga­inst Iouinian and such lyke as I haue noted before. Yt is like that you fell into this wishe of Saint Hieroms lyfe in these dayes / because ye wold fynde some way to tell the world (that Oecolampadius, Capito, Capito was no munk nor fr [...]er as Martin re­porteth fol. iij. and Munster, were munks or fry­ars and afterward maried men. No man can iudge otherwise that noteth your proces / and perceaueth the desier that your tonge hath to lyeng. Well seing Capito was no munk nor fryer (as you report him) ye shall not chuse but suffer me to say to you this is another of your lyes / for it is trew that of these all that you report he was neither monk nor fryar. And in case they had beene as D. Luther. D. Bucer & the other were / it could neither further your matter / nor hurt ours / onles it be to ease your tong a litle / when it is desyrose to rayle. And where yow say ther mariadge was both against the law of God / and the law of man / and also where in the se­cond chapter of your book yow say it is an old heresie new scowerid I dout not before I haue done with yow and your fellowes / ye shall see it prouid befo­re your face / that it is an old trueth [Page 159] taught by Christ and his Apostles / new­ly by you Papists and Gods enemies made heresie. The mariadge of priests is an old trueth / new­ly made heresie by the Papists. In which discourse it shall al [...]o appeare / that D. Luther. D. Martyr / etc. were not the first founders of this religi­on (as yow slanderosly reporte) but the patriarches / the prophets and Christ and his Apostles. But to maintaine your lye withall / ye digresse from your argu­ [...]ent / and fall to slandering of Luther [...]nd the rest / alledging that ‘he robbed Christs church of one of the Sacraments [...]allid the holy Sacrament of Matrimo [...]y. Martin vnderstandeth not the Christian men when they say matrimony is no Sacrament and how that is to be vnder­standed.’ Thus Martin trouleth his tong [...]t will / not knowing those lerned mens [...]ayings concernīg matrimony / whether & how they think it a Sacramēt or not / wherfore thow shalt vnderstand good re [...]der that the opinion of these lerned fa­ [...]hers / and of all other that fear God / in [...]hese dayes / is groundid apon Gods [...]ord / and it is this. Yf ye take the name [...]f this word Sacrament largyly and am [...]lye / for any such action / or thing as may [...]epresent another holy thing / The word (Sacrament) may diuersly be ta­ken. then they [...]enye not but that Matrimonie is a Sacrament because it representeth vn­ [...] vs the coniunction of Christ with his [...]hurch. Wherof there is a plaine [Page 160] testimony of Saint Paule in his Epistle to the Ephesians. Eph. ij. Howbeit taking the word (Sacrament) after this sort ye shalbe forced to confesse / that there be not only seuen Sacraments: Bernard Ser. In cena Do­mini▪ but also a great nomber more / as the washīg of feet / The wypīg of the dust from the feet of the A­postles / The embracing of yong children in the armes / Iohann. 13. Luc. 9.10. And the most parte of all Christs actions. But if ye restraine the name and word (Sacrament) not only to those actions which represent spirituall thīgs / but also to those which be appoin­ted in the new Testament by our Saui­our and his Apostles to be ministrid by certaine words with commandement t [...] thesame / that they shuld so be ministerid with the offer and promes of forgeuenes of sinnes: Then can not matrimo­nie be put in the number of Sacramēts namely of the new Testament / because i [...] was ordeined in Paradise before Adam [...] fall. Longe tyme after Christ / ma­trimony was not ministerid at church as platina wryteth and other 5. q. 5. aliter. And matrimonie ministred befor [...] Christendō held after Christēdom 1. Cor. [...] Si infidelis discedit, discedat. Ergo matrimon [...] is not a Sacrament of the new Testa­ment. And ye read not that / Matrimo­nie was ministrid by a priest at church v [...]till the tyme of pope Euaristus or vntill th [...] [Page 161] tyme of pope Sother (as Platina wryteth in his lyfe) who was 170 yere after Christ and for the auoyding of priuie contracts made first that decree / that matrimonie should be celebrat at church and by a priest. But seing Martī brought in this matter but for a raylīg purpose / I wil leaue it of with these few words for this present. And will tell the good reader of a­nother solempne lye that Martin hath made whyles his tong runeth railīg af­ter D. Luther. Martin beli­eth Luth. alled­ging his book de cap [...]iuitate Babylonica. And Pighius also. He saith there / that Lu­ther hath wrytten in his book De Captiui­tate. Babylonica, Si uxor nō possit, aut non uult, an­cilla uenito. (that is to say) if the good wy­fe can not / or will not / the good man may take his maid / Speak again Martī / where saith Luther these words? thow saist in his book de captiuitate Babylonica. The self same lye maketh Pighius of Lut. Contro­uersia 15. Take that book in thy hand good reader / and read it ouer / and whan thow findest there / as Martin doth re­port / I am content let it be said that I haue slaunderid Martī / if not / testifie with me that he is a lyeng witnes / and one of those Doctors whom Saint Peter cal­leth / Pseudoprophetas in populo / 2. Pe. 2. and falsos Doc­tores qui clam inducent sectas perniciosas.

[Page 162]False prophets amongest the peple / and false lyeng Docturs / which shall priuily bring in perniciose sectes: I assuer the good reader this is a foule lye that Martyn the lyer and Pighius his fellow maketh of Luther / for that saying which they alledge in latyn / as thoughe it had been so by Luther penned / is not in all that booke / where Martyn most shame­fully aduoucheth the same to be. Schame ye not you Papists that suche a loud lyēg babler / and so false and vaine a man hath taken apon him the defense of your cau­se? whose own mouth and pen condem­pneth for an opē lyer? Tremble ye not to shed any mans blud / apon the report of such an impudent man as he is? I will not hyde from the good reader / Luthers iudgemēt in that book / concerning that matter. In one place there speaking of the impediments of matrimony / he saith that if the man be such a one by nature that it is impossible for him to doe the duetie of a husband: The Papists can not abyde luther when he teacheth ther own doctrine xxxiij. q. i. quod aūt interrog. then his contract with a woman / shall not bynde her to be his wyf and this is his reason. quia error, & ignorantia uirilis impotentiae, hic impedit matri­monium. Because saith he the error / and the ignoraunce of the impotency of [Page 163] the man in this case letteth the matrymony. Gregori bus­hop of Rome / writinge to the busshop of Rauenna. Which saiyng yf you Papists wold comdempne / ye condempne the doctrine of your own father the Pope himself.

For Gregory busshop of Rome wrytīg to the bushop of Rauenna saith on this wyse. Vir & mulier si se comunxerint: & di xerit postea mulier de uiro, quod coire non possit cum ea, si possit probare quod uerum sit per iustum iudicium, accipiat alium. Yf a man and a woman be maried together (saith the pope) and the woman afterward say that the man can haue no carnall knowledge of her / and can bring forth lawfull profe therof / let her take another.

Moreouer before in the same question and afterward / 33. q. i. si quis. in the Chapter (Si quis) These words be plain and in maner the very same that Luther hath spoken.

Impossibilitas reddendi debitum, soluit Vincu­ [...]um cōiugij. The impossibilitie of doing the [...]atrimoniall dutie / breaketh the bond of [...]atrimony: vnderstandīg the same defect [...]o be naturall as Luther by the plain wo [...]ds there declareth that he doth.

And the selfsame doctrine is largely [...]et furth and alowed by the master of the [...]ntence. li. 4. D. 34.

[Page 164]wherfore lyke as / for this saying Lu­ther cā not be charged with any new doc­trine / Magister sen­tētiarum lib. 4. D. 34. read the place and iudge. for that the same is taught by the Pope himself and the master of the sentence / and Gratianus etc: So can not thesa­me discharge Martin of his former euy­dent and most manifest slanderose lye? Yf the Papists haue none / of more credit thē Martin the lewd lawier is / to defend there quarell / there doctrin must needs lye in the dust / for lak of men of honestie and credit to defend it, Yf Martin were not shameles I could not but maruaile why he should so report of Luther conce [...]ning his doctrine of matrimony in that bok / for he is there so ware in his words and so circumspect with his pen in that poynt / that he will define nothing / as by the very last words there / intreating ap [...] matrimony / it is most euydent / which for breuitie I will omitt. Many tyme i [...] chaunceth that self will bredeth much yll [...] and neuer more / then whan it lighteth i [...] a great personage. Which saying wer [...] prouid very trew by Martins story of M [...]chael Palaeologus / if it were truly reportid but his mouth is so full of lyes that a m [...] can not tell when he may beleue him / H [...] saith he hath red that history of Michae [...] [Page 165] Palaeologus in a Grek autor / And that may be trew / but yet it is very vnlikely because the histories do declare that there were diuerse Emperours of the east whose na­mes were Michaell / but no more named (as I remēber) Michael Pa­leologus. Michaell Palaeologus sauing Michaell the seauynth and last of that name (Michael) who was a thousand two hū ­dreth and threscore yere after Christ / as Chronicles do witnes (that is to say) ab­out thre hundreth yere agon. But the hi­story that Martin ascribed to the Empe­ror Michael Paleologus / was (as he himself saith) when pope Nicholas (about the ye­re of our lurd 860) sent out an excommunication against Photius Patriarch of Con­stantinople. And so it foloweth that Michael Palaeologus the Emperour was (if Martins tale could be trew) Yet another. lye of Mar­tins. fower hundreth yere before be was born / wherby it should seem that Martins talk in this place is a notable fayned lye and so muche the more lyke to be a lye because he is in all the rest of his book so geuen to lyeng.

But let it be trew that Michaell the sixt (between whom and pope Nicholas the first / the contention was / for Ignatius / and Photius) were named Michaell Palaeolo­gus: (which I say Martin can not proue) [Page 166] yet the history that Martin ioyneth to this matter / (that is) that he hath red the cause of the contention between pope Nicholas the first and him / was for a plea­sur that the said Emperor should shew to his vncle for the putting away of his lawfull wyfe / and marieng his daughter in law / I think be not altogether trew.

King Henry the viij.But that somwhat in this history is added of Martins own forging / desyring to haue some color for his quarell when he intended to slaunder kyng Henry the eight the Queens father / which intent of his appereth / whē he wisheth that the lyke had not been practised els where. And somwhat this my suspicion is increasid by that Martī refuseth to name the Greek author / These epistles ye shall haue To. ij. Conciliorum generali­um pag. 746. whom he alledgeth. And ag­aine where as in the books of generall Counsels / the earnest epistles wrytten frō Nicholas the pope / to the Emperour Michaell the sixt (for in those dayes there were none named Paleologus as Martin saith) speak of the putting out of Ignatius and the putting in of Photius / That the here­sie against the holy gost began many yeres be­fore Michaell Paleologus the Emperour was born. into the office of the patriark / no mention is made of any such matter / which is not lyke the pope wold haue left out / being (as Martin alledgeth) the chefe cause of ther falling out / & speaking so stoutly to the [Page 167] Emperour / and taunting him so vylie as his Antichristian boldnes doth. But how much soeuer of the history is trew / this chefe point that Martin alledgeth the history for / (that is that the heresie against the holy gost and the contention therof sprang apon this occasion) this (I say) is manifestly false / Another lye of Martins. as by sundry sub­stanciall reasons I will proue plain to such as haue any knowledge of the doing in generall Counsels / and be not as Martin is arrogantly wyse: Martins falsifyeth histories. wyse (I say) in there own conceyt and not in deed. For profe wherof / first and formest it apper­eth in the fift book and tenth Chapter of the history of Theodoret / Theodoret li. v ca. x. an old Greek author by the confeszion of pope Dama­sus (fyue hundreth yere before the tyme of that Emperor whom Martin falsly nameth Michaell Palaeologus) Pope Dama­sus. which confesz­ion he sent to Paulinus bushop of Thessaloni­ca in Macedonia that anon after the Nicene Counsell sprang contention for doctrine against the holy gost / Paulinus bus­hop of thessalo­nica. & that such a busi­nes ensewed therof that the fathers we­re fayne to punnish the offenders therin by excom̄unication. Toletanum cō cil. i. Wherapō it folowed that both in Toletano concilio 1. about 400. yere after Christ & also in the secōd Coun­sell [Page 168] / which some name the seuenth Coun­cell of Nice / the busshops did put into the Creed the procedīg of the holy gost from the fahter ād the son̄e / as ye may read in­those Councells. Nicen concil. vij. Hadrian was An. dom. 772. and the Emperor Michaell. Anno. Dom. 859. The latter .7. Nicen Coū sell was holden in the tyme ōf pope Ha­drian the first / a hundreth yere before Michaell had the contention with Po­pe Nicholas the first / in whose tyme (Martin saith) this error first began / ād fiue hundreth yere before Michael Palaeolo­gus was born / of whom Martyn falsly fatherid this story. The tyme it self proueth Martin alyar

Which saying of his / if it were trew / how could Theodoretus wryte of it / be­ing dead in the tyme of Leo the first Em [...]peror (as Gennadius witnesseth) many hun [...]dreth yeres before? Gennadius. will Martin make men beleue / that the first Councell at To­let in Spain / and the 7 Counsell of Nice amendid things so many hundreth yeres before they were amisse? Martin con­futid and found a plain lyer by the decree of Eugenius iiij. and that Theod [...]oret could talke of thīgs that were do­ne aboue thre hundreth yere after he was dead? You fauorers of Martin behold your own folly. Furthermore the decree o [...] Eugenius the 4 wherby the vnion of the e­ast and west churches was declared / doth shew (as the same pope Eugenius doth co [...]fesse) [Page 169] that this dissention for the proce­ding of the holy gost / began nongentis & amplius annis (that is to say) more thē ny­ne hundreth yere before his tyme.

And Eugenius the 4. began his rule in the yere of our lord 1431. Out of the which nomber if ye take 900 and more accor­ding to pope Eugenius his account / it shall appere that Michaell Pelaeologus (tho­ugh he were in the tyme of Nicholas the first as Martin falsly reporteth) was aboue 300 yere after this dissention began / which Martin for maintenance of his lyes saith began in his tyme.

Yf I should bring in the first Coun­sell holden at Constantinople against Eu­nomius for denieng the proceszion of the holy gost from the father and the sone what can Martin say? Against this Eunomius / Basill and other hath writtē plentifulli.

Thus ye see concerning the begin̄ing of this heresie against the holi gost / Martin is foūd a falsyfier of histories / not on­ly by the suputation of yeres / but also by the very testimony of the pope hīself his God. Now concerning the cause of the dissention between the Greeks / and the Latins wher with Martin charged the Emperor Michael Palaeologus.

[Page 170] Martin pro­uid a foule lyer by Bessarion a Cardinall in oratione dog­matica pro unione Ecclesiae Graecae & La­tinae, cap. 2.The learned man Cardinall Bessarion pa­triarch of Constantinople and Archebus­hop of Nicea wryteth a whole Chapter for declaration of the cause of this schis­me and dissention: shewing that the bushhop of Rome was the causer therof for that he. Sua unius authoritate fretus aduocata synodo generali particulam illam communi symbo­lo fidei, non cum communi assensu ascripsit. (that is) when he had callid a generall Coun­sell / he tooke apon him of his own priuat authoritie / to adde this parcell (.i. of the proceding of the holy gost from the fat­her and the sun to the commō Creed / with out the consent of the rest of the other bushops there assembled. Behold good reader a plain prof / that it was the rashe / and termerose boldnes of the bushop of Rome that causid this dissention / who of his oune authoritie wold doe that tumultuosly / The pope was the cause of the dissension bet­ween the greek and the latin churche contra­ [...]y to Martin. which he might haue done with others consents quietly / and that was it which caused first all that dissention that ensued and also the latter ruine mischefe Destruction / and Turkishe Captiuitie / which Martin faith is this day lighted apon the church of God in Grecia.

But Martin will say the thing that he did was Good:

[Page 171]Yea but the maner of the doīg was suche as I thīk Martin / if he thorowly knew it / as he wold seme to do / he himself (for all his foly) will not yet defend it / And the inconueniences that folowed the popes brainles and beastly audacitie / declare that the meanes which he vsid in compassing his doings / were wicked and deue­lish. So that wher as Martin impu­teth the breche and contention between the Greek and latin church and the ouer throw / both of the Grecians church and kingdom / to the lecherose lyfe of the vn­kle to the Emperour Michaell Palaeologus: it is prouid / that the Pope / the author of al mischefe in the church of God / was the only matche that kindled this fier. A worthi matter doutles to depryue the Pope for euer after bearing any rule though [...] there were nothing els wherwith to charge him. Two lyes at a­cast of Mar­tins. And thus is Martin once a­gain ouerthrown with his own reason & taken with a duble lye: aswell for alledging the heresie against the holy gost to begin so lately / which began so many hū dreth yere before / As for auouching the dissention which arose between the east and the west church to procede first of the lechory and Ambition / [Page 172] (as he termeth it in his note in the mar­gēt) of the Emperour Michael Palaeologus & his vncle / To .iij. genera­lium concilio­rum. which proceded first (as ye see by the testimony of Bessariō) from Gods great enemie / the pope the Archheretik in Christendom. Now to make an end of answer to that few lynes which remayne in Martins first Chapter / I need not to take further paines / because they be nothing ells but lyes & raylings / grounded apon false grounds as I haue before declarid / only to this ēd / that king Hen­the eight the Queens father might appere to the world both a lechor an heretique and a mā full of all other wickednes / out of whose naughty lyfe Martī wold haue al the preachīg in King Edwards dayes which he calleth heresie / to haue his first Originall. And the procedings of the la­te parliament in the second yere of the Queens raigne / wherin all her fathers doings in religion be condempned / seme to confirm the same. So that the Que­ens father (if he had bene such a man as the Papists report him) were now con­demned with vs. Wherfore it is to be thought / seing almightie God hath per­mitted some of vs / to suffir martyrdom by fyer / by blody persecution and the Ty­rannie [Page 173] of the popes law / and tormentes for professing the trueth of Gods word: that now the body of that noble Prince the Queens father (because he was the beginner of all this as Martin repor­teth / Yf king Hen­ry the viij. were an heretik why lyeth his body at windsore vn [...]in [...]ied. and the continewer of it XXV. yere / as the procedings of the parlament seem to pronoūce) shalbe taken vp at windsor and burned as wicklyffes was. All men of wisdom and discretion may well iud­ge of thee (if thou were not as thou she­west thy self / a shameles rayler voyd of all regard / against whom thy tong tal­keth) that it had been thy parte to haue couerid the fault of the Queens father / if thou haddest any fault wherwith to charge him / lest the world perceaue some vnnaturalnes in her / so to suffer her no­ble father now being dead / to be rayled apon by one who shewed himself a tray­tor to him when he was a lyue. All the world right well knoweth / that there is no spark / nether of Gods spirite / neither of good nature / in those children / which are not greued to here / there dead parēts euell reported / and there faults reueled. Such is the reuerence dew to them that be dead / vnto whom we ought obedien­ce in the tyme of there tyfe / And what / [Page 174] good opinion may any man euer hereaf­ter conceaue / of thee / when thy shameles pen doth confesse now / that thow wert a traytor thē. But this is not thy peculiar vyce alone / but of Steph. Gardiner also & of a great rable of the rest / who glory in nothing more now / then that they ha­ue bene rank traytors this many yeres / And what thing shall haue the name of vyce / where treason is made a vertew? Or what iustice cā be ministerid where a traytor is the iudge? Who knoweth not in a counsell where there be but twelue / what a perelose thing it was to haue one Iudas? though none of the rest loued him? how much more it is thē perelos / wher al the rest alow his counsels and doings / & make as it were of an old Iudas / Martin pro­uid a traytor bi his own reaso­ning. a new Christ? Apon this bold confession of thy trayterose harte / vtterid in declaration of thy fained history of Michael Palaeologus I may by thine own iudgement / iudge thee to be a traytor still. Martins words in his bok sol. xxviij. Brought in a­gainst himself. For in the 20 leafe of thy book thow bringest in a rule of the law sayinge / Semel malus, semper praesumitur esse malus, in codem genere mali. i. (that is by thyne own interpretatiō. A person once e­uell is euer presumed to be euell in the same kynde of euel▪ Which rule being trew [Page 175] (as thow sayest it is thought in law) All men may geue sentence against the and such lyke / by the iudgement of thine own pen and by force of thin own argument That thow and such thy fellowes / be at this present all rank Traytors. This re­ason is none of myne / but thine own rea­son it is / that cutteth thin own Throt.

And I dout not but the indifferent read will confesse that hether to I haue fought with the with thine own weapons and reasons aswell in prouing the Papists he­retiques ād lechors / as also in this parte prouing the and such lyke traytors. And because your glory is so great in the na­me of old Doctors / I haue by the most old Doctors confirmed all my profes / or els by such not so old / as thow thy self hast abusid for thy wicked purpose. wherby the reader shall also perceaue / that your glory in the name of the Doctors / The Papists glory in vayn in the name of Doctors. is but a vayn blast / blowen into mens ea [...]es / to stop them from hering the treuth of gods word. wherin though thy wryting declareth the al thogether ignorant / yet see­mest thow very loth so to appeare to the reader / and therfore in the last end of this Chapter thow hast chopped in a pece of scripture / Rom. xvj. a strong pece of new clothe se­wed to a rotten garment / and therfor / [Page 176] for it renteth all that thow hast patched before into peces. ‘I pray you brethren (saist thow out of Saint Paule) beware of them who cause dissentions / and offences against the doctrine which you haue lerned / and voyd your selfes from there company / and flee them / for such persons serue not Christ our lord but there belly.’ These be Saint Paules words by thee alegid. To this Maior / or grownd I adde this Minor or mean proposition. But you Papists cause dissentions and offen­ses against the doctrine that S. Paule taught in thesame Epistle to the Rom­ains (of which doctrin he there speaketh) in that ye hold a man is made righteous by his works / The Papistes dissent from S. Paules doctri­ne. and that a man of himself [...] may merite eternal saluation / and in your other opinions of originall sinn / of me­rits / and fre will / and against the eternal predestination of God / and against the obedience of certain of your shauen generation to magistrats / as of the pope / who is in deed a subiect to the superiall power and yet yow exclude him / from all obedi­ence / and of your monks ad such lyke: Ye and more ouer you teache other Doctri­nes of pardons / of pilgremages / of wor­shipping of Images / of masse / and diri­ges [Page 177] / and of dyuers kinds of Idolatries which Saint Paule nor none of the Apostles of Christ neuer herd of: but these be doctrines both praeter & contra besids and against the doctrines which the Romai­nes had receaued at the hands of Saint Paule or otherwise of Christ or of any of his Apostles: wherfore this is a necessary conclusion that Saint Paule in that place which you alledge / S. Paule tea­cheth al men to beware fo the Papists / by the place by martin alledged. biddeth all men vnder the name of the Romaines to be­ware of you Papists / and such like rank heretiks as you be / because ye be not the ministers and seruants of Christ (as you pretend) but ye make Christ your seruāt and instrument wherby to feed your fat belyes as Saint Paule there saith / Rom. 16. with out regard to the feding of the soules cō ­mitted to your charge by the lyuely word of God / The Papistes maake Christ ther seruant. but feed them with traditions & doctrins of your own makinge / which is neither grounded / neither can by any meanes be deduced out of the lyuely word of God / as you your selues neither can / nor [...]o denye / in that yow hold ād defend this [...]lasphemose heresie. That althīgs neces­ [...]ary for our saluation are not conteined [...]n the scripture / which is asmuche to say / [Page 178] as we ought to dissent and receaue some doctrines besids that doctrin that the Romaines had receaued by the teachings of S Paule cōtrary to the text by the al­ledged. Yea al the doctrin of the pope chopt to gether and mingellid as herbes to the pott / and couched in his Antichri­stian law / is almost nothing els / then a lomp of lerning besids and against the lyuely word of God.

Now therfore good reader I will end as Saint Paule doth / desiering and beseching the in the name of Iesus Christ / to beware of all the Papists / and all other heretiks that cause dissentions / and offences against the doctrine which you haue learned / out of Gods word / and shune and flye the cōpaines of such / for they serue not Christ our lord but there own bellyes.